From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:12:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83pnbw82dl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a730ah5y.fsf@gnu.org> <5d86c203-d23a-4dac-9b29-0a8f8d996f8d@default> <0amjmZH_sb4Aq6vjPWD6yng4ZWLqDySIA0MLCF5clZ5TRnH9f4qL4_ASNlJfUaPtyqwvibCXyEeHWaofDAUKPUW_YmJrKagf3mOFjGqbH3I=@protonmail.com> <837dy4adp5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="64681"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, pcr910303@icloud.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, ndame@protonmail.com To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 25 09:13:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSF0K-000Giu-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:13:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59844 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSF0J-0002qv-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:13:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSEzq-0002FI-MM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSEzp-0005nH-ST; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2006 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jSEzp-0003K1-3U; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:13:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from chad on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:52:04 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247756 Archived-At: > From: chad > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:52:04 -0700 > Cc: ndame , Drew Adams , > 조성빈 , > EMACS development team > > > Pretty nice and well put together. It really should be linked from > > the startup screen. > > It's already there. > > I checked again with emacs -q on a fresh build from this morning. The default starting text is below, but it > doesn't seem to include it. I also checked the default Help menu, where I thought that it had once been > included, but didn't find it there, either. Maybe I got removed at some point? No, it was not removed. It's still there, both in Emacs 27 and on master. But we have several different variants of the startup screen, and what gets actually displayed depends on how you invoke Emacs and on Emacs's capabilities in the session you started. So how did you start Emacs (from the shell prompt, from some icon, from some service), and what kind of features do you have in that build? Alternatively, just read the code in startup.el and try to figure out why you don't have that displayed in your case. It usually means you lack some capability, but of course there could be some bug as well.