From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: splash-screen Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:10:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83pn67o7hh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d02ej7bq.fsf@gnus.org> <874knoekki.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu1fb8kb.fsf@gnus.org> <87blhurx3n.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8lslklt.fsf@gnus.org> <83wo0fo8sg.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28991"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, nicolas.rougier@inria.fr To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 12:11:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMTej-0007RP-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:11:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMTei-00075C-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 06:11:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMTdx-0006U0-ES for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 06:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49090) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMTdw-0001Gu-Hi; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 06:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2977 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kMTdp-00007h-5V; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 06:10:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Thibaut Verron on Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:56:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256531 Archived-At: > From: Thibaut Verron > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:56:34 +0200 > Cc: Richard Stallman , Lars Ingebrigtsen , > "Nicolas P. Rougier" , emacs-devel > > > Whether we should show it or not is a separate question, but let's not > > muddy the waters by creating tangents that don't add anything useful > > to this discussion. > > I don't agree that it's a tangent. Emacs shows it "first thing you > see", in all caps. Other software require either clicking one's way to > the EULA, or requesting this info with --version. Some software does what you describe. Others display the EULA _first_, and won't even let you see the real program's display until and unless you click on "agree". (Still others are even nastier: they show in small print, or momentarily display, something to the effect that "by using this you agree to ...".) > And software which display it outside of a terminal tend to follow > standard typographical practices when doing so. (Yes, bold is also > discouraged as a marker of emphasis, but it is very commonly used for > that purpose.) I see all-caps in GUI applications as well. > If the topic is to be brought to the FSF's counsel again, why not > request updated advice on all aspects of the issue? Sure, why not? But let's not maintain the position that Emacs is the odd one out here; it's not.