From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master baf1a7a4a0: Turn gv-synthetic-place into a function Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:54:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83pmfmozld.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835yhkzmn8.fsf@gnu.org> <878rmfx51p.fsf@web.de> <831qs7zj9e.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8piec78.fsf@web.de> <834jx2xphy.fsf@gnu.org> <878rmenmd4.fsf@web.de> <87sfklgmba.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87edw4bzrp.fsf@web.de> <83y1ucu4k9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1ub7kjp.fsf@gnus.org> <83wn9vqrxa.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkr6r4s6.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18072"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Howard Melman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 18:08:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oblE6-0004Rw-O4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:08:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56652 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oblE5-0007XG-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:08:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53174) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obl12-0003FK-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 11:55:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54634) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obl11-000842-HR; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 11:55:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=+DH4UgaSJILcH8qT7vJo+M7Zmhvcm6D7nUBm2kYgQYE=; b=codoVTu44YqG alSgj3nZ2AT7m6lNKixOSiBxQAWEWLbEI8lrUw/E49S8buibDxFJ3MxqMEXdrvNkEDQJvB3FkIcKr 9oajhT/PtNRKRDsLJNiSx38Ag++i8o5fNTuE3+woWUj46rgAPCanbniPdT0UWmf00sDRy3kPdSgZQ 2j6wG4xzIF+2qnkhsfEE4p4ReGZhpUyNRIh6SOQqEKUV7ia98icqNWmZRmrx6W9nFYXiFM/1hKUnD 5m6A0Qn9uhqCff/puhANcBMbYC3xt6vMRbGOXYRoWXnU+GjDrHjD3tqHSMSNp+jxctaIujo0jKg3a Tbu9Vm8Sovx+4mo6VDa8/g==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1714 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obl10-0008M0-Rj; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 11:54:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Howard Melman on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 09:42:50 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296058 Archived-At: > From: Howard Melman > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 09:42:50 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Howard Melman > >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:55:03 -0400 > >> > >> For me, I'm still not completely clear if "generalized > >> variable" is exactly the same as "place" and if "generalized > >> variable form" is the same as "place form". That's what I'd > >> like to see clarity on and if they are the same, just use > >> one term. > > > > They are the same thing. > > Thanks. > > Then I think using just one term is clearer and I agree with > Lars about avoiding "place" as much as possible. I think GV > would be a clearer parameter name than PLACE. That ship has sailed, unfortunately. Where were you (and Lars) when this terminology was introduced and I tried to find some better alternatives, but was voted down?