From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 13:30:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83pmfdduix.fsf@gnu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21585"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 30 12:31:53 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oeDJB-0005WM-BF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2022 12:31:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46728 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oeDJA-0007GI-1N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:31:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45366) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oeDHp-0006Qb-Sr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:30:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oeDHp-0007w9-KK; Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:30:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=XncHCV8yosXtVAM37LpRz2d4FbnPY/LNjylic1h3g0M=; b=Xl3C2qZPbDtVPmKDCRLu mI0bB0juPd5BIY0aBQBFhfT6kTYBa5Pv39EHkeDHi6iuRv2Xp5b4v150Kyl049YuVwoQwxuGy/F5F +/oZuluCcL7zucDmkfLAZ+BZvaBmQJBgS9tnjzH/FBaNYHD1Y/3Bk5CWBn3mmkjZO1Al4PxM8XOQW B9uRxEE3pBdPMAelXE+U8egE0zkCnQ6Q+ToxLQJ6AkR6ndW0YofXsTg4szZd0+lYFU7fDeMxm22Rk /rmiVwmoqx0HjLvyX4jNdITU1PuA01BSIPN1DKQdmGRQG4RrPGlo6NS8xyu/UuN4beKsH5Lpvfwe/ xTCCRXiGvpaTXA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2449 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oeDHn-0001TG-7l; Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:30:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 30 Sep 2022 01:04:46 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296501 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 01:04:46 -0700 > Cc: João Távora > > Hi all, João, > > Now that we're getting closer to merging eglot, I think it is our last > chance to (re-)consider that "eglot" is not the ideal name. It has some > charm, of course, but it is quite non-descriptive and it's hard (read: > impossible) to understand what it does based on the name alone.[1] Sorry, no. We will not start a dispute about renaming eglot, because that would delay its merge, and we don't have time for that luxury. We want eglot to be part of Emacs 29. As for more basic arguments why not rename it: this package is not a new one, it is used by many people as a 3rd-party package. So it's too late to rename it. So, no: eglot will rename eglot, and will be merged with Emacs under that name. It might be sub-optimal, but there are more important considerations at stake.