From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 14:18:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83pmddzwwm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <651bbe21-f179-730a-4f10-7dc6d27055ea@gmail.com> <878rk2c1he.fsf@rfc20.org> <831qpu25hx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1s2a3rd.fsf@rfc20.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36301"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Matt Armstrong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 23 13:19:07 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oxoiY-0009Ht-Va for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 13:19:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxoi4-0005g8-PS; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:18:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxoi1-0005dF-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:18:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxoi1-0008Sc-0E; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:18:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=HEQHEJn/vtSLzzP8NWOCmuDGSMBBwSBuJc/Ll7ZUxQk=; b=kUwPCMF/s26h FAXmdqCwbapQZWvd2sb09+UnWeEeatkCk7n7BS2PiQ7hgUmJhjVRSMRtAnKHwXegzvj6Q0ZvIvBhq R8tUAKxkf5iQuAqc8PRbr3fb6vG31FrxsfPja9860hkVr+4qqeIGXHl66CwUWRd5uyqNH/Cf8RHFz sF60YsDGyELBzWsUX7fmxOMBPfd2D95PFvQkyzbYRU7gewkrwStM5Z8ebICiyzcNoggUDicKaNnuk VVNOTYcnUtJIJzh86lUnHQapxrXOZvtFaNZdmekvACj6pQvFMJwj6iTccwkSKbr8kgpH2OfBUcyHY YcUuYmlg3WdqWtvKbg/HEA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxohz-0000Xu-Qg; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:18:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87y1s2a3rd.fsf@rfc20.org> (message from Matt Armstrong on Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:55:18 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300387 Archived-At: > From: Matt Armstrong > Cc: rms@gnu.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 16:55:18 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Matt Armstrong > >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 10:01:33 -0800 > >> > >> I think there is another drawback of Emacs' prefix based namespace > >> convention: that of longer local (private, non-public, unexported, etc.) > >> names. > > > > Why is that a drawback? (It's a serious question.) > > Thanks for asking. > > I have to admit that my answer boils down to familiarity. I'd like > programming in Emacs Lisp to feel more like the other programming > languages I'm more familiar with. > [...] Thanks. However, my question was specifically about the "longer local names" aspect, and it looks like you've answered a slightly different question...