From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-29 b44a7ff85dc: Allow 'icon-title-format' to have the value t Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 14:13:47 +0200 Message-ID: <83pma3tdvo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <167661970773.22310.13511166994278322415@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20230217074148.2E130C1391A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bklooy1e.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7968"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 21 13:14:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pURXE-0001sS-Gv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:14:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pURWe-0006j2-6F; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 07:13:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pURWc-0006im-DR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 07:13:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pURWb-0007tg-Cd; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 07:13:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=4lSvNwOhAZRgEoQdjIAr3yrEt0vAJGtcCQe5I8TKGc0=; b=F1/lW5twHHpbFB0/VHZX F2IeMHkA/kYErQLwX6VewGAorxOWaWJYqcUqTdkh6EPNtnp+Eehnw54Ft2Okughg4vyOKygvOaPhj VKpAGpOp4S5ifIm3wynCqvgpFqeBrX7rZoRbjwUn2P8unNj/ENxI0iQPyIViKWtvvCh8bfIEonp9k k/OH149cfwULE3sEzqN4ySK7ZoGASFDKQgj0oD6jy7DCAr5jRtVnVFvKC25wNQkHgGzQDTTYXkmG5 zITm3LlFBAJrhA84txpMuPpm/TAWoepYCRov1yf7SS2MQPprei3/G65HdTi9+bKQb+wOkYBI+9Cw/ lq5nYdqyDlaUnQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pURWa-0003V9-Sh; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 07:13:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87bklooy1e.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes on Mon, 20 Feb 2023 21:57:17 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303640 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 21:57:17 +0100 > > Then, we have a problem with terminology: "iconify" is a word that is > rarely used since decades ago, the current term is "minimize", so most > new users will not understand what icon-title-format is about from its > documentation. There's nothing we can do here. This terminology is everywhere in Emacs, both in documentation and in names of commands and variables. The node "Visibility of Frames" explains the terminology, and mentions the "minimized" alternative; it also has index entries to that effect.