From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Updating *Completions* as you type Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:12:47 +0200 Message-ID: <83plzr6a74.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkd3z9bi.fsf@catern.com> <ierleas4fcr.fsf@janestreet.com> <86v89ws5t3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <iercyw445tu.fsf@janestreet.com> <86v89vzf1o.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87pm03jn3w.fsf@catern.com> <861qcjw3ch.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <ier1qcin8db.fsf@janestreet.com> <86r0ki2on3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <ierttpdlqe4.fsf@janestreet.com> <86leao519y.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87fs0wk5oq.fsf@catern.com> <86edgfin4v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87o7fhixzv.fsf@catern.com> <86o7fhy9ae.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87v89ohc6f.fsf@catern.com> <86il5nhdvh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87plzuuend.fsf@catern.com> <837cm19ay3.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzq1kh7m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <831qc993vg.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzq1t623.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83jzq07lks.fsf@gnu.org> <CAO=BR8MUsaZ4NAZouaGxD=koonTHdkT0dCGOKryf6jf2PaNMqw@mail.gmail.com> <831qc87gq4.fsf@gnu.org> <CAO=BR8OfUprMgZUSVWm5R3Kj9J7pvqRYiOwW18Q3=6SpGYOy_g@mail.gmail.com> <83zfyw5zg2.fsf@gnu.org> <CAO=BR8OaKFWCZbeHKKd1hLJ76+ub46qgLuS+WacGbPGoS=_XdA@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29193"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 30 07:13:21 2023 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1r8aIb-0007Qa-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 07:13:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces@gnu.org>) id 1r8aIE-00040s-Ol; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 01:12:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1r8aID-00040j-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 01:12:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1r8aIC-0007C2-2u; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 01:12:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=gGqN6/R+g9YgpT6LruiD1emZol1kF4OQMChGr+PkvkE=; b=MIvz2K+t4E3BT/IidYPd duWHcTtTrn3Ei4zFfDyYnqW9YFxxIMPTmxE+3cZxYcG+Mkew/zO6LazgutV/3oWwXhqe/35zb3Bq+ pZtEBxVjlTu9SsypKhS526U4cb+qQ+XGouV665vxZ8/+2piYWzCDEROJXhrfPy6m7C7jXWwU4eZK4 V7z36ccvhN7YkGTH+G0MM5zOZhVDp1hJO2vFQp6qW78uRVBrn5sHH1R/YCjP+uD6PA4NQaqXMb8Ig 2H+Z9N9Ua1T8h38t+41DJlYSmhht/znbcH5u7VezZo32alcYqf+RLaMwtpLToafhnBZzYy5JB5YcG k26q7xX64gxbvQ==; In-Reply-To: <CAO=BR8OaKFWCZbeHKKd1hLJ76+ub46qgLuS+WacGbPGoS=_XdA@mail.gmail.com> (message from Spencer Baugh on Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:17:57 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313384 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/313384> > From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:17:57 -0500 > Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:52 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > > From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> > > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 10:21:47 -0500 > > Cc: juri@linkov.net, sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I feel confident that more users will understand "History order" than "in the > > order of their typing". > > > > How about "Sorted in the order of minibuffer history"? > > That's better, but if you are okay with that, how about "Sorted in the > chronological order of minibuffer input"? > > That does not mention history, so I think it's worse - how are user supposed to know it's about > history? ?? Didn't you yourself say several messages ago it was NOT about history? I quote: > > Oh, no, this is about sorting completion candidates, not history. So now you say this IS about history? > But I'm okay with "Sorted in chronological order of minibuffer history". This is tautology: history is always in chronological order. We are in effect wasting one word by repeating another.