From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation) Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:38:38 +0200 Message-ID: <83plyeua9d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3E7CF23D-CE62-4581-80D6-E6266CEE4DF5@traductaire-libre.org> <83edexy5cy.fsf@gnu.org> <838r55y05r.fsf@gnu.org> <62B42DE8-CFDC-4D6E-A74C-28D7E4B063B1@traductaire-libre.org> <837ckpxvmz.fsf@gnu.org> <9197D9C0-7AE7-4E8D-BFDA-D185C905465B@traductaire-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26614"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 06 09:39:24 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rM2DD-0006hK-CZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 09:39:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rM2Cl-0004md-Sr; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 03:38:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rM2Ck-0004mV-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 03:38:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rM2Ck-0004rQ-64; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 03:38:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=4guHpRq5qT4/Y9SQl7NBiKUMGA9GSUUT5coIKHhiik0=; b=jknIfFObKqEiPdFy85rF 5Ui86vpDAozJLhESspNdm2jdglqiZZFMmgZwtIkU4vV8wk29hjUgpss72Y32p7IcOHZGglU28KQrM ZYfck/TM67PdLoapGE2F4OOQMvZuPUnTG56D+baq+aSr0CyO0EOflScWkQzAjicFgLSn8/nb5GUbk SKjiiN+AIhdl4u1N3HStZ21VvgyZuc0LODKHEXFiravIiqp0WBxrU8viluyTw3LOY3dvlY5CKoDwb 2zwVx9zuK+PrK0XYPO6BjNNR3fMTpDyLEa2RCRCIpvHQDA5OCUXDlH0sGrvKpmb44Akj8+w7wxVD7 zEjQaTpaumMRCA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Sat, 06 Jan 2024 05:40:38 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314595 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2024 05:40:38 +0000 > From: Jean-Christophe Helary > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > This is not a mere personal preference. We offer Emacs as the > > solution for editing. It would be self-defeating to adopt a format, > > for ANY of the files we edit, which is ill-suited to editing with > > Emacs! > > I understand that. But currently, the translation-editing functions > offered by Emacs are not up to par with translation dedicated free > software packages. So, translators tend to prefer such packages and > thus the formats that such packages support. > > But now that I understand why Eli as project maintainer does not favour > PO, I am totally fine with the project’s position. We need to > investigate what are the best ways to handle TeXinfo files for > translation and propose guidelines to potential translators. My personal preferences only matter when I do the translation. It is wrong to impose those preferences on others. Of course, the motivation to be able to work on translation in Emacs is high, but whether what Emacs provides is good enough is up to each translator to decide.