From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new Emacs HELLO file?? Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:39:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83ocpgymug.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fxbb7hp1.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <87hbvrk2df.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87tyzr5pq4.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <87fxba1e92.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ab1if6dj.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <874orp82se.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87pracvwz9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878wgqwaz5.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <83pra22krm.fsf@gnu.org> <871vmcrr9n.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252784360 25582 80.91.229.12 (12 Sep 2009 19:39:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: kawabata.taichi@gmail.com ( Taichi KAWABATA ) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 21:39:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MmYRE-0007ap-Ey for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:39:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39214 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmYRD-0002OA-Ax for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmYR8-0002M1-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmYR7-0002Kz-Jp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35383 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmYR7-0002Kq-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il ([84.95.2.4]:38802) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmYR7-00072Z-1k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KPV00I00IH7ET00@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:39:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.50.163]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KPV006DMIL3W6D0@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:39:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <871vmcrr9n.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115246 Archived-At: > From: kawabata.taichi@gmail.com ( Taichi KAWABATA ) > Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:45:24 +0900 > > >> In <83pra22krm.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > fixed the logical order of Arabic language. > > > Fixed how? (Sorry, don't have time to look.) The name of the > > language (not the greeting) should be in visual order, because Emacs > > does not yet support bidirectional display. > > Fixed to follow reading order. They should be rendered correctly when > copied to other programs that can handle BIDI correctly, which may > include future version of Emacs. No, we deliberately have the language in visual order to make it readable. Being readable is more important than being copy-paste-able. When Emacs supports bidirectional editing, we will reorder that again.