From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tabulated-list-init-header and glyphless-char-display Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:04:21 +0300 Message-ID: <83oc4cr7fe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mxk0u0g7.fsf@gnu.org> <874o68zjhi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83k4f4twam.fsf@gnu.org> <8762qnxm44.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83hba6rqtm.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxjyht7w.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83pqosra90.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqosg0ea.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302572782 31262 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2011 01:46:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 12 03:46:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [140.186.70.17] (helo=lists.gnu.org) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9SgL-0001dq-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 03:46:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53236 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9SgL-0006tB-Ht for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:46:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39639) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9SgA-0005yQ-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9LTZ-0000QN-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:63742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9LTZ-0000QC-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:04:37 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LJI008001L8FD00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:04:34 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.31.148]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LJI0081T27L5TB0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:04:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87pqosg0ea.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name found for IP address 140.186.70.17 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138405 Archived-At: > From: Chong Yidong > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:31:41 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > No, I was trying to suggest something much simpler: see if these > > characters can be displayed, e.g. with unencodable-char-position (and > > something similar for GUI sessions), and if so, use surrogates > > directly in the code, without going through glyphless-char-display. > > How would this handle the multi-tty case? The only thing that matters on a tty is its encoding, which you pass to unencodable-char-position. If you mean that some frames can be GUI frames, then you can always know what kind of frame is the selected one, right? Or are you thinking about something else?