From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:29:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83obdy3b8c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9q8xt5b.fsf@gmail.com> <83ehfkjocu.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4jjks82.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> <878v5qbsz8.fsf@gmail.com> <871ubhn9k7.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> <87mwtismo7.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364804941 10674 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2013 08:29:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 01 10:29:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMa7L-0007AJ-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:29:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33118 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMa6w-0007De-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34976) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMa6t-0007D7-3z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMa6r-0005Ca-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:28:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:52335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMa6r-0005CP-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKK00600I6EJN00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:28:55 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKK006RLI865VG0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:28:55 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87mwtismo7.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158507 Archived-At: > From: Jambunathan K > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:33:04 +0530 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > By continuing to work on Org-mode, I am supporting Bastien which I don't > intend to. No. If you continue working on Org-mode, you support the community of Org-mode _users_! This is not about you against Bastien; this is about you against the community. If you didn't understand this by now, I don't know what other arguments could ever show you the ugly, selfish side of your behavior. > I don't approve of what he is doing (in his role as a maintainer) Then do what disagreeing people do in these circumstance: fork. Then let the users judge whether they value your branch more than the other one. This is the Free Software paradigm for solving irreconcilable disagreements. By contrast, what you are trying to do is punish all the Org users on behalf of _personal_ feud between you and the head maintainer. This is why everybody and their dog turn against you, don't you see it?