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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: using glyphs by default in perl-mode
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:52:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83obbit1lx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqq6qe6n.fsf@lifelogs.com>

> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:48:48 -0400
> 
> OK, but read that sentence again.  Can you really make sense of it?

Yes, definitely.  I wonder what makes it illegible for you.  (No, I
didn't write that doc string.)

> >> It would be really nice to be able to [...] use an image to create a
> >> glyph.
> 
> EZ> I don't understand this: Emacs _can_ display an image, so what can you
> EZ> possibly mean by "use an image to create a glyph"?  What is a "glyph"
> EZ> in this context?
> 
> Currently, AFAIK Emacs treats images as a text property.

More accurately, you display images by creating text properties with
images as their values.

> This is
> convenient but there are many cases where I'd rather have images behave
> like typed characters: one image == one character == one glyph.

Then create a font.  That's what you want.  Emacs cannot display text
as something else except via text properties or overlays.

> (make-char 'image "/tmp/gnus.png")
> 
> will produce something that respects font size, can be scaled, and looks
> like a character to all Emacs functions but like an image visually.  In
> text mode or without image support it would be treated like a character
> that can't be rendered.

This doesn't make sense to me: a character has many properties and
attributes that the above doesn't provide.  Displaying an image as a
character means that you will need to implement a font library, or
something close.

Why can't you generate a set of strings with display properties, and
then insert them into a buffer?  After all, a single-character string
should do what you want, no?




  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-07 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-30  0:50 using glyphs by default in perl-mode Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-05  4:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-05  7:34   ` James Cloos
2013-05-06  1:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-06  4:26       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-06 15:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-07 16:32           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-07 21:20             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-08  3:22               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-08  4:02                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-09 16:31                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-09 16:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-09 17:22                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-09 18:39                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-09 18:58                         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-05-09 19:31                         ` James Cloos
2013-05-17 13:01                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-05-17 15:48                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-19  2:50                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-05-30  0:01                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-30 14:47                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-05-30 17:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-30 20:32                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-01  6:29                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-06-01 13:46                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-01 14:47                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-02 12:35                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-02 15:52                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-03  2:02                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-03  2:04                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-03  7:04                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-04  1:52                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-04 14:28                                                       ` Davis Herring
2013-06-04 17:20                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-04 20:06                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05  1:27                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-05 14:45                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 16:13                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-05 17:28                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 17:42                                                                   ` joakim
2013-06-05 17:58                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 17:50                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 18:52                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-05 19:36                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 20:13                                                                       ` joakim
2013-06-05 16:43                                                               ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-05 17:52                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 18:07                                                                   ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-05 18:33                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 18:55                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-05 19:34                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-05 20:19                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-07  7:36                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-07  7:45                                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-07 12:48                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-07 14:52                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-06-07 15:39                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-07 12:53                                                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2013-06-07 14:16                                                                   ` compose-region docstring update (was: using glyphs by default in perl-mode) Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-09 12:45                                                                     ` Kenichi Handa
     [not found]                                                                 ` <87li6m1i0m.fsf__1024.55602395839$1370591197$gmane$org@gmail.com>
2013-06-07 13:05                                                                   ` bug#13189: using glyphs by default in perl-mode Ted Zlatanov
2013-06-07 16:07                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-09 18:30                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2013-05-10  0:23                     ` Richard Stallman

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