From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: make distclean and quail Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:25:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83ob92q3jq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8338rf4yor.fsf@gnu.org> <83txjv3iui.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2pkqh96.fsf@gnu.org> <83bo54qbb0.fsf@gnu.org> <831u5zqfsl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376324741 658 80.91.229.3 (12 Aug 2013 16:25:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 12 18:25:43 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V8uw8-0006QO-FW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:25:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38032 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V8uw7-0001y5-Pe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:25:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47777) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V8uvw-0001s0-FJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:25:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V8uvq-0001Rf-VP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:25:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:36452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V8uvq-0001Qu-OW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:25:22 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRF00500EWF9E00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:25:21 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRF004Y3EY8YX70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:25:20 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162627 Archived-At: > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:55:09 +0200 > Cc: Emacs developers > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > So in both cases you typed "make bootstrap" > > In both cases I typed mboot, which runs the command I described (and > additionally redirects the output to "| tee trunk.log"). I never ever > bootstrap in any other way. > > > the Makefile's were all identical, > > I cannot be sure. Then I suggest to collect the Makefile's as well, with each log. > > Any idea why it does "am--refresh" in one case, but not the other? > > The dependency list of am--refresh isn't big: > > am--refresh: $(srcdir)/aclocal.m4 $(srcdir)/configure $(srcdir)/src/config.in > > and I'm sure some or all these changed in the ~80 commits between > successful and unsuccesful. Though likely the reconfigure step wasn't > invoked during the unsuccessful bootstrap, but by some previous "make > all". The question is: do all of the "bad" builds have this part in them? I think we need more statistics, and we need to compare the Makefile's as well.