From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk still not open Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Message-ID: <83ob16azu5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6xwqfxhl88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83txb1mcsy.fsf@gnu.org> <87siqlku0i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqfxari2.fsf@yandex.ru> <87ha70kyy3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5323B66B.5070405@yandex.ru> <837g7vdg70.fsf@gnu.org> <5324F2DA.9090204@yandex.ru> <83pplmby11.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnx6g1fr.fsf@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394986263 21878 80.91.229.3 (16 Mar 2014 16:11:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 16 17:11:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WPDeY-0002ma-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 17:11:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPDeY-0002Em-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:11:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49167) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPDeQ-0002EQ-NJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPDeL-00048g-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:44556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPDeL-00048X-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N2J00000E2BL200@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 18:10:56 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N2J000D2EA7DY40@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 18:10:56 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87bnx6g1fr.fsf@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170419 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 07:25:12 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > That's not true. Here's a random example of a GDB command definition: > > ... > > > What is that if not a doc string? > > Are there a lot of them? I'd expect the ratio of docstrings/manual > volume in GCC to be much lower than in Emacs. (It's GDB, not GCC.) Not sure why would you expect that, but here are the numbers: There are 2500 commands in "emacs -Q" and 2600 variables. The Emacs user manual weighs in at 49000 lines, and describes more than just "emacs -Q", but does not describe all of the commands and variables. There are about 1100 commands and options in GDB. The GDB manual is also about 49000 lines, but only 30000 of these describe interactive commands and options (the rest is about GDB/MI, the remote protocol, and other non-interactive issues). So the ratio sounds very similar to me.