From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More metaproblem Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:54:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83oarcwype.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141203142859.24393.98673@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <20141203192721.GE12748@thyrsus.com> <547F6774.50700@cs.ucla.edu> <838uio5vjw.fsf@gnu.org> <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsftgd5.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <83egsf3yci.fsf@gnu.org> <87iohq6nvn.fsf@ktab.red-bean.com> <85bnnhkuep.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <857fy4ipsd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85y4qjdsg0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <548616BE.3050701@cumego.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418144120 32032 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 16:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?Przemys=C5=82aw?= Wojnowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 17:55:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyO4A-0001mw-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:55:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41340 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyO4A-00040Z-6R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyO3m-0003zb-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:54:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyO3g-0006bl-Ry for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:54:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:57933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyO3g-0006be-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:54:44 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NGB00300QKTFQ00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:52:21 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NGB00O0CQV9AB50@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:52:21 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <548616BE.3050701@cumego.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179569 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:23:10 +0100 > From: Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski >=20 > 1. How to build a project from source > (http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2014/11/13/welcome-new-emacs-developer= s/ is a > good start). Is it different from INSTALL.REPO in the Emacs tree? > 2. How to run (automated) tests - IMHO a must if a project want to = be > perceived as modern by young developers. Without automated tests yo= ung devs > will think that project stuck in 80's. Moreover, automated tests en= able > refactoring, which is standard now. Writing tests is very good star= ting point > for new devs, because one can learn about the system and make it mo= re > resistant to unintended changes at the same time. Did you look in tests/ ? > 4. GH has fantastic pull requests that make contribution easier to = do and less > public, which is encouraging. Here, sending patches to the list, is > technically harder (less of a problem) and discouraging (send a pat= ch and > watch 100 emails humiliating you :-) ). When did you see 100 humiliating emails in response to a patch? I think you have some other project/forum in mind.