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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: johnw@newartisans.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New maintainer
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 11:04:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83oagg4buo.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ZiBkS-0000a0-0z@fencepost.gnu.org>

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 21:36:28 -0400
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> GNU Emacs is part of the GNU Project, which is a technical project
> with a specific political aim: software freedom for all users.  This
> goal includes all the software they use, not just the specific programs
> we develop.
> 
> The GNU Emacs maintainer's responsibility is to take charge of Emacs
> on behalf of the GNU Project, and produce the best possible GNU Emacs
> -- which means, the one that advances our aim the most.
> 
> Mostly, making Emacs better is a matter of practical improvements, but
> there are some exceptions.  The maintainer's responsibility includes
> some tasks to support the GPL, both practically and politically.  It
> includes getting copyright papers from contributors so we can enforce
> the GPL.  It includes making sure dynamic loading resists GPL
> violation.  It includes putting some GNU Project political statements
> into Emacs.  It includes making sure nothing in Emacs disagrees with
> them.  An Emacs maintainer has to be willing to undertake this part of
> the responsibility as well as the politically neutral bulk of the
> responsibility.
> 
> The maintainer's job does not include personal political statements.
> Maintainers don't have to say they agree with the GNU Project's
> political positions, they just have to implement them wholeheartedly.
> 
> However, a maintainer shouldn't publicly oppose our positions.

Thanks for that summary, Richard.

In my personal experience, what you describe is not the most important
part of the decision a candidate or a nominee should make before
agreeing to volunteer.  He or she should indeed make sure they are OK
with all of the above, but I believe most of us are anyway.  The
practical implications of the above are more or less no-brainers:
performing the few implied duties is simple, even mechanical, and some
of them will rarely if ever be needed at all, except in some extreme
and improbable situation (like if someone declares they no longer want
to be part of the GNU Project, forks Emacs and takes most of the
contributors with them).  Yet another part is just agreement to some
principles, and has not practical implications beyond the fact of the
agreement itself.

IOW, this, what I call "the FSF side", of being the maintainer is not
the hard part of the decision to become one, nor something most of the
others should consider when they decide whether a candidate gets their
vote of confidence.  The hard part, IMO, is what does it mean "to
produce the best possible Emacs"?  What's the translation of this to
everyday's practice?

Perhaps we should consider this part of the job description before we
start nominating candidates and volunteering.

Emacs is so large that its maintenance is IMO qualitatively different
from almost any other package out there.  There are maybe a dozen
distinct large areas of expertise in the C core, dozens of such areas
in core Lisp infrastructures, and hundreds of them on the application
level.  Each one of these comes with its own non-trivial
domain-specific knowledge, its own algorithms, its own do's and
dont's.  No single person nor a small (2-3) number of people could
ever cover all that turf in any reasonable way.

By contrast, a head maintainer seems to be expected to be the final
authority for making decisions on changes in any particular area, and
also on design and implementation of both significant and
insignificant new features.

So, given this seemingly unsolvable contradiction, what do you, the
crowd, expect of the new maintainer?  What "job description", in
addition to what Richard wrote, would you propose if you were tasked
with the job of finding the candidates?  E.g., how many hours a week
should that person be available for working on Emacs?  Which talents
and personal traits should he or she possess?  Etc. etc.

I'm not writing this to solicit a barrage of suggestions for such a
job description, so please hold off your fast-typing fingers.  I'm
writing this to suggest that each one of us should take a moment to
think about these expectations, and decide who or what would we want
that next "maintainer" to be.  That's because I'm not sure all of
those who participated in this thread have the same things in mind
when they express their opinions about who might be a good maintainer.
Then look around and see if there are any persons who fit the bill
here.  Then you could perhaps provide some rationale for why you think
this or that person could be a good candidate.

HTH



  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-03  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 559+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-29  6:28 New maintainer Stefan Monnier
2015-09-29 15:26 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-30 20:34   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01  6:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 14:13     ` Aurélien Aptel
2015-10-01 16:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 17:14       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 18:35         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01 19:18           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 20:43             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 23:37             ` Barry Warsaw
2015-10-06  4:52               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02  0:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-29 19:20 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-09-29 21:46 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01  6:12   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-01 13:55     ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-01 14:44     ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-01 19:58       ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-01 20:46         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01 21:18           ` Yoni Rabkin
2015-10-02  0:38             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-02  0:44               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02  0:49                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-02  1:00                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02  1:05               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-02  1:55                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03  1:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03  7:20                   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-03 18:25                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:04                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 19:26                       ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:56                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 20:03                         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-03 20:10                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 20:44                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 21:49                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-10-03 22:15                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04  6:40                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04 14:13                                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03 22:34                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-03 22:53                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04  0:30                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2015-10-03 20:44                             ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-03 21:03                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 21:43                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04 14:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-04 21:41                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 17:10                               ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 19:20                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 19:25                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-05 19:31                                     ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-05 19:45                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-05 20:16                                         ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-05 20:37                                           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 20:48                                             ` David Engster
2015-10-05 21:04                                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 21:03                                             ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-06  7:34                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06  7:31                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06 21:53                                             ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-06 22:15                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06 22:59                                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-06 23:22                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-07 11:34                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2015-10-07 16:15                                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-07 16:48                                                     ` Phillip Lord
2015-10-07 16:53                                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-07 17:26                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-07 18:11                                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-10-08  4:34                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-12 19:59                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 20:48                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-07  0:18                                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07  6:43                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-07  7:43                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-10-07  8:42                                         ` joakim
2015-10-08 22:20                                       ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-09  0:14                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-09  5:03                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-09  7:30                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-09 17:25                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-09 18:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-09 19:06                                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-11 20:51                                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-09  3:04                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-11  6:49                                         ` Tom
2015-10-11  7:13                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-11  7:45                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-05 17:32                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 17:05                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 19:03                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04  2:33                       ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-04  6:56                         ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-04 15:49                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-04 19:46                           ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-04 21:18                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04 21:34                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-04 22:28                               ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-04 22:47                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-04 23:20                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-04 23:55                                   ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-05  6:00                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05  6:15                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-05  6:56                                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 13:55                                         ` Michael Westbom
2015-10-05  6:59                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05  7:36                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-05  8:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 14:38                                             ` Michael Westbom
2015-10-05 17:12                                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:12                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05  5:24                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-10-06 15:03                                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:10                                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:07                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 19:13                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 17:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 21:21                     ` David Reitter
2015-10-05 22:21                       ` John Wiegley
2015-10-07 17:30                         ` David Reitter
2015-10-08  2:30                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-01 21:52           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 22:08           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-02  0:13           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-02  2:07             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-02  3:45               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03  3:37                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-10-02  8:14               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-02 15:21                 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-02 11:16               ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-10-02 13:03                 ` Rasmus
2015-10-02 15:45               ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-02 17:02                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-02 19:20                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-03  5:34                   ` Rustom Mody
2015-10-03 12:03                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-03 12:24                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-03 20:04                       ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-04  6:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04  7:03                           ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-04  7:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06 21:58                               ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-07 15:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07 16:47                                   ` Malk'Zameth
2015-10-07 18:17                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07 18:42                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-12 19:59                                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07 18:49                                   ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-07 19:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 17:05                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-04 14:13                         ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03  1:36           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03  8:04             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-10-03 11:40               ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-03 19:47               ` David Engster
2015-10-03 19:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 20:14                   ` David Engster
2015-10-03 20:27                     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 11:50             ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-04 14:11               ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02  2:30         ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-01 23:26   ` Lennart Borgman
2015-10-02  2:24   ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03 18:37     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2015-10-03 18:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 19:08         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:12           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 19:39               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 18:59       ` John Wiegley
     [not found]         ` <<83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-03 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 19:19           ` John Wiegley
     [not found]             ` <<83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-03 19:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 20:04               ` John Wiegley
     [not found]                 ` <<5610E0BC.8090902@online.de>
2015-10-04  8:18                 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-04  8:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <<E1Zj9Cu-0001Ph-5n@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-10-05 17:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <<m2bncd16lh.fsf@newartisans.com>
2015-10-05 19:02                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 19:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 19:38                             ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-05 19:43                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 20:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 20:38                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 21:20                           ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]                             ` <<E1ZjcRM-000333-Eb@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                               ` <<loom.20151010T062303-9@post.gmane.org>
2015-10-05 22:12                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 22:24                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 23:42                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 23:52                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-06  6:13                             ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-06  6:25                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-10-06  7:39                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06  6:29                             ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-06  7:29                               ` Rasmus
2015-10-07  0:18                             ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-10  4:33                               ` IDE Tom
2015-10-10  7:56                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <<5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru>
2015-10-10  8:15                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10  8:30                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10  8:59                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10  9:40                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:14                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 10:34                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:50                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 11:03                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 14:15                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 14:25                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 17:52                                                       ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 10:21                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 10:25                                                           ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 10:29                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:16                                                               ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-11 12:22                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:37                                                                   ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-11 12:56                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 11:45                                                                       ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-12 11:47                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 15:55                                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 16:21                                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 16:58                                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 17:26                                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 17:39                                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 10:10                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 10:17                                                         ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 11:02                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 11:38                                                             ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 11:49                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:08                                                                 ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 12:27                                                                   ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-11 12:49                                                                     ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 16:00                                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 15:25                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 18:47                                                                 ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 15:25                                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 22:06                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 11:05                                                             ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 11:29                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 12:37                                                                 ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 13:08                                                                   ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-12 14:12                                                                     ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 16:21                                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 13:33                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 14:08                                                                     ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 14:25                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 16:12                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 14:39                                                                 ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 14:49                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 15:02                                                                     ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 15:13                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 15:54                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 18:06                                                                 ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-14  2:32                                                               ` IDE Eric Ludlam
     [not found]                                                           ` <<561A41CA.6060908@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                                                             ` <<83a8rpqvg1.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-11 18:10                                                               ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-11 22:13                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 15:23                                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 22:10                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 20:53                                                         ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 21:40                                                           ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-12 20:01                                                             ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-10 14:20                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 14:37                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 15:02                                                       ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 15:35                                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 17:52                                                           ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-10 18:31                                                             ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-10 18:46                                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 19:03                                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 19:11                                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 19:16                                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 20:47                                                                       ` IDE David Kastrup
     [not found]                                                                     ` <<83lhbar0tn.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-10 20:15                                                                       ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-10 20:03                                                                   ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-11 20:52                                                                   ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-10 18:58                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 19:07                                                                 ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 19:14                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 20:09                                                                     ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-10 21:23                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 22:04                                                                   ` IDE Daniel Colascione
2015-10-11  8:15                                                                   ` IDE Andreas Röhler
2015-10-12 18:12                                                                 ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-12 18:31                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 18:47                                                                     ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-13 23:34                                                                       ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-14  7:33                                                                         ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-10 22:05                                                               ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-10 23:20                                                                 ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-12 11:53                                                                   ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-12 20:06                                                                     ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-10 23:26                                                               ` IDE raman
2015-10-11 20:49                                                         ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 13:18                                           ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 13:26                                             ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 13:34                                               ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 13:41                                                 ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 14:05                                                   ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 14:18                                                     ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 13:59                                               ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 14:10                                                 ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 14:10                                             ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 16:04                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 17:05                                               ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 17:15                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 17:32                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-12 19:59                                                     ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 18:55                                                   ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 18:12                                             ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-12 11:46                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 14:40                                               ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 14:55                                                 ` IDE Tom
2015-10-12 15:11                                                   ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 14:17                                                 ` IDE Nix
2015-10-24 14:25                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 16:29                                                     ` IDE Nix
2015-10-24 16:56                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 17:00                                                       ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:12                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 17:42                                                           ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 18:10                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 18:43                                                               ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-25 17:38                                                                 ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-24 17:00                                                     ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:10                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 17:32                                                         ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-26 18:28                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 20:04                                                             ` IDE Andreas Schwab
2015-10-26 20:18                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 20:27                                                                 ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 20:34                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 22:09                                                                     ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 22:44                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 23:06                                                                         ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 23:19                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 23:40                                                                             ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-27  0:18                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27  1:33                                                                           ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-27  3:01                                                                             ` IDE Nikolaus Rath
2015-10-27  3:49                                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27  4:02                                                                                 ` IDE Nikolaus Rath
2015-10-27 17:50                                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 18:41                                                                                     ` IDE Nikolaus Rath
2015-10-28 16:09                                                                                       ` IDE Nix
2015-10-26 20:41                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 22:16                                                                     ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-27  3:38                                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 12:24                                                                         ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-27 18:03                                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 18:38                                                                             ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 21:14                                                                 ` IDE Andreas Schwab
2015-10-27  3:33                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 17:39                                                                     ` IDE Andreas Schwab
2015-10-27 18:35                                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27  8:20                                                         ` IDE Marcus Harnisch
2015-10-24 17:02                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 17:11                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 17:15                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 17:20                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 18:15                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 18:59                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 19:07                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27  8:21                                                                 ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-27 17:58                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 17:00                                                   ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 21:54                                               ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-13  0:12                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-14  2:45                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-14 11:42                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-14 12:14                                                     ` IDE Alexis
2015-10-14 13:53                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15  3:31                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  0:14                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  4:21                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15  5:07                                                         ` IDE Elias Mårtenson
2015-10-15  5:16                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15 13:20                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15 13:18                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15 19:58                                                           ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-15 20:31                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16  7:39                                                             ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 10:27                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 11:17                                                                 ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 11:42                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 16:47                                                                   ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-17  3:56                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 17:18                                                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-17 23:11                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18 18:21                                                                           ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-18 21:35                                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 13:04                                                                               ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-20  0:45                                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 12:37                                                                                   ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-21  0:44                                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21 14:40                                                                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-21 16:24                                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 15:23                                                                                   ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-21  1:06                                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21 14:52                                                                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-28  2:30                                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 13:36                                                                                           ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-27 17:28                                                                                       ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-28 12:34                                                                                         ` IDE Filipp Gunbin
2015-10-28 15:57                                                                                           ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-28 19:20                                                                                             ` IDE Filipp Gunbin
2015-10-29  2:32                                                                                             ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-11-01 17:59                                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-01 20:10                                                                                             ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-11-01 20:34                                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-01 17:49                                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17  0:41                                                                   ` IDE Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-17  2:16                                                                   ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-18 22:38                                                                     ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17  2:10                                                               ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-17  3:24                                                                 ` Is EDE only intended to be used with languages which /require/ a 'compile' step? [was: Re: IDE] Alexis
2015-10-17 14:09                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2015-10-22  8:46                                                                     ` Alexis
2015-10-22 18:25                                                                       ` Aaron Ecay
2015-10-10 16:48                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-11  4:38                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 15:08                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 15:23                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-11 15:34                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 21:55                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 17:37                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-12 15:18                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-13 22:29                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  3:16                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15 12:57                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-16 10:00                                                       ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 13:06                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 13:05                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17  2:39                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-17  3:06                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 12:45                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-17 14:09                                                               ` IDE Stephen Leake
2015-10-17 14:25                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 14:41                                                                 ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17 14:44                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 11:51                                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-20  0:56                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21  2:41                                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-10  9:51                                       ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:02                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 20:25                                           ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-13 13:02                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-13 16:03                                         ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-13 16:28                                           ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-13 16:40                                             ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-14  3:16                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-14  6:04                                               ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-14  8:09                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-14 12:05                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  3:40                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15 13:08                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15 21:03                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16  2:40                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-16 10:21                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-14 13:17                                                 ` IDE Stephen Leake
2015-10-14 13:36                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-14 10:47                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 22:58                                                 ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-17  7:58                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17  8:39                                                     ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-17 16:12                                                       ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-17 16:28                                                         ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-17 16:38                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18  8:13                                                       ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-17 12:00                                                     ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17 13:21                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 15:26                                                         ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17 20:19                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 22:03                                                             ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-17 22:07                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 22:28                                                                 ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-17 22:37                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18  9:08                                                                     ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-18  9:42                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20  1:07                                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-21  0:23                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18 11:56                                                             ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-18 12:11                                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-18 16:34                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18 17:12                                                                 ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-18 17:28                                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-20  1:25                                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-18 18:17                                                                   ` IDE Achim Gratz
2015-10-18 18:28                                                                     ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-18 18:50                                                                       ` IDE Achim Gratz
2015-10-18 18:58                                                                         ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-18 20:42                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20  1:03                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-20 11:28                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21  3:13                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-21 10:54                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21 22:52                                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-21 23:57                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-22  1:35                                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-22 11:17                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-22 12:58                                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-22 21:47                                                                           ` IDE Louis Höfler
2015-10-28  2:16                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 11:39                                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-28 14:45                                                                               ` Universal tag structure, was: IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 14:54                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 11:54                                                                               ` IDE joakim
2015-10-29 11:12                                                                             ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 11:26                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 11:37                                                                                 ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 12:38                                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 12:56                                                                                     ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 13:13                                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 22:35                                                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-30  9:04                                                                                           ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-31  1:24                                                                                             ` IDE Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-31 11:40                                                                                               ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-11-02 11:50                                                                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-11-03 13:35                                                                                                   ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-23 11:33                                                                   ` IDE Evgeniy Dushistov
2015-10-23 14:55                                                                     ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-23 15:51                                                                       ` IDE Evgeniy Dushistov
2015-10-23 16:25                                                                         ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-18  5:23                                                     ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-18 16:55                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 17:29                                                         ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-25  7:43                                                       ` IDE Andreas Röhler
2015-10-14  3:01                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
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2015-10-24 17:37                                                         ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:47                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10  9:00                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10  9:17                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10  9:55                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:02                                       ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:17                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:29                                           ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:36                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:42                                               ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:23                                       ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 10:35                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:47                                           ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 10:58                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 11:20                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 11:25                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 12:44                                       ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 22:23                               ` IDE John Yates
2015-10-12  2:45                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12  9:45                                   ` IDE John Yates
2015-10-12  9:53                                     ` IDE Daniel Colascione
2015-10-12 15:49                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06  1:15                           ` New maintainer Paul Nathan
2015-10-06  4:30                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-06  6:36                               ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-06  7:33                                 ` Rasmus
2015-10-09  3:03                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07  0:18                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-04 14:13       ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07  5:08   ` Bastien
2015-10-07  8:52   ` Travis Jeffery
2015-09-30  0:26 ` Xue Fuqiao

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