Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'.

[Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>]

> From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
> Cc: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>,  bruce.connor.am@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:17:44 -0800
> 
> >>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Maybe I'm missing something, but I think this behavior doesn't happen when
> > electric-indent-mode is off, which it was in previous versions of Emacs.
> > Isn't that true?
> 
> Correct. We have several things in play here:
> 
>   1. When electric-indent-mode is off, everything is fine.
> 
>   2. When electric-indent-mode is on, C-o behaves in an unexpected fashion.

Then what is it that electric-indent-mode gives you that prevents you
personally from turning it off?

> Since I wasn't present for the discussion when electric-indent-mode was
> enabled by default, I'd like to reopen that discussion with regard to 25.1.
> Probably on a separate thread from this one.

Please read the past discussions about that, before you decide to
start another one.  If you still think it's a good idea after you've
read that, I guess we will, but at least we could then try to avoid
saying again what has been already beaten to death.

Personally, I find arguments about Emacs defaults one of the most
futile kind of arguments.  They tend to drag on and on, when all you
need to do to solve the problem is a few lines in your ~/.emacs, many
times just one line.  But that's me.