From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC menu ? Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 10:04:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83o9svl884.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k23lmvwr.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499497532 23817 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2017 07:05:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 07:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 08 09:05:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTjns-0005dM-QA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:05:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60117 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTjny-00067c-83 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:05:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTjnm-000661-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:05:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTjnh-0004iL-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:05:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36891) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTjnh-0004i8-4D; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1227 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dTjng-0001SH-G1; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 03:05:08 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Sat, 8 Jul 2017 10:25:56 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216304 Archived-At: > From: Jean-Christophe Helary > Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 10:25:56 +0900 > > We are trying not to put too many items on the top-level menu, since > various modes add their own items. For example, Dired adds 5 items. > > I saw that. Wow. Maybe modes should be limited in the number of menu slots they use... I see no reason for a one-fits-all restriction. Of course, every specific case should be judged on its own. In this case, we should ask heavy users of Dired whether they need all of those on the top level, and see what they respond. > Re. VC vs dired, I guess VC would not be in the top menu when Emacs is in Dired mode (is there a used for > vc-ing a directory buffer ?) I'm actually unconvinced VC warrants its own top-level menu item. AFAIR, it's in "Tools" in every IDE I ever saw, so Emacs is not the odd one out here. Also, why should that be more important than, say, "Compile" or "Shell command" or "Compare"? That this particular community is a heavy user of some VCS doesn't yet mean we should skew Emacs to our specific needs, especially since most of us hardly ever use the menus anyway. > And really, Dired should use a master menu item and put all it's stuff there. I think this would make that master item very long and deeply nested.