From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:21:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83o9nexy48.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20171129233238.504B5204F1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <5d668ce5-1482-a3d4-c01b-7d996a532567@yandex.ru> <20171130214621.GA22157@ACM> <27985594-3bb4-ce88-8928-2ccfeac13eae@yandex.ru> <20171201154913.GB3840@ACM> <1e542021-e389-cca4-6acd-349efddb2652@yandex.ru> <20171201223529.GG3840@ACM> <4a94ec5c-efdd-50f1-ff4d-277f5f45c2df@yandex.ru> <83lgil1qme.fsf@gnu.org> <83d13x1j2s.fsf@gnu.org> <34abea95-c7f7-e8fa-8407-8c2fd2a4cfe1@yandex.ru> <83y3mkzw1n.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv2zzv7z.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512404573 5918 195.159.176.226 (4 Dec 2017 16:22:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 16:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 04 17:22:49 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLtW3-0001CG-Ct for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 17:22:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43961 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLtWA-0003uB-M6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:22:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48423) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLtV3-0003ss-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:21:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLtUx-0003mc-Ck for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:21:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57346) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eLtUx-0003mX-A5; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4298 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eLtUw-0007Dk-Ds; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:21:38 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:24:45 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220702 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:24:45 -0500 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I think he was referring to the PREVIOUS-CHUNKS part of > prog-indentation-context. The MMM framework could easily provide some > similar facility (which would take care of changing the narrowing when > needed). But I think we had better see some concrete uses first before > deciding upon a design for that. The code which supports PREV-CHUNK is already in Emacs, so the question IMO is "why remove it"? If we want to try to get this into Emacs 26, we should strive to make the code changes minimal, ideally zero. Once all we are left with are documentation changes, the feature can land on emacs-26 right now. So I think it's worth our while to take a very good look at the proposed changes and think hard whether we absolutely must make those changes, and why.