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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Use of minibuffer-prompt face when minibuffer is not involved
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 17:11:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o949cc88.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7e501bb-9dd8-4b00-8647-d0731f2b2565@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 11 May 2019 06:52:31 -0700 (PDT))

> Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 06:52:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > Active minibuffer is an internal detail.  I wish it didn't exist at
> > all, but our implementation forces us to have it.  Exposing that to
> > users is exactly the wrong idea.
> 
> Active minibuffer is in _no_ way "an internal detail".

You have 2 core Emacs developers disagree with you, which is a clear
sign that you are wrong.

> "Grave mistake"?  Why do you say so?  (No reason given.)

I actually did give a reason, please re-read what I wrote.

> We (since Emacs 22, at least) now provide two different
> faces for the mode-line, to show which window is active
> (selected) - which has the focus.  This is very similar:
> the minibuffer is a buffer in a window.

No, selected window is an entirely different concept.

> No argument has been given yet supporting _why_ this
> should be considered "internal".  Just two opinions
> strongly proclaiming that it _is_ an internal detail.
> Why do you think so?

Read the code, and you will clearly see that.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-11 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-10 18:35 Use of minibuffer-prompt face when minibuffer is not involved Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-10 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-10 21:59   ` Drew Adams
2019-05-10 22:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-11  6:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 13:22     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
     [not found]     ` <<jwvftpm9buh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<83o949ecdc.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-05-11 13:52         ` Drew Adams
2019-05-11 14:11           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-05-12 22:31             ` Richard Stallman
2019-05-12 23:32               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <<<jwvftpm9buh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<83o949ecdc.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]         ` <<c7e501bb-9dd8-4b00-8647-d0731f2b2565@default>
     [not found]           ` <<83o949cc88.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-05-11 14:34             ` Drew Adams
2019-05-11 13:50   ` Solving bug#35564 (was: Use of minibuffer-prompt face when minibuffer is not involved) Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-05-11 14:13     ` Solving bug#35564 Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <<8736lmi2dg.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found] <<<8736lmi2dg.fsf@gmail.com>

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