From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 20:32:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83o8pxa05z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <833679boji.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgf9a6rb.fsf@gnu.org> <87d06dv689.fsf@logand.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="94740"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: sb@dod.no, rms@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 05 19:33:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jhGDZ-000OTt-Hz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 19:33:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49988 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhGDY-0000FF-Kh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:33:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhGCy-00083K-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhGCv-0001zb-Hu; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:32:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4376 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jhGCo-0007M6-Gu; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:32:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87d06dv689.fsf@logand.com> (message from Tomas Hlavaty on Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:15:50 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251915 Archived-At: > From: Tomas Hlavaty > Cc: sb@dod.no, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:15:50 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > See window-text-pixel-size as one example of what we have. The > > underlying functionality is even more powerful. > > (window-text-pixel-size) returns nonsense in console. It does? Can you show an example? Or, better yet, make a bug report about the problematic case(s)? > >> > We already can display such thin lines, see, for example, help-fns.el > >> > (search for ":height"). No X-level graphics is needed. > > X graphics is seems to be needed. You need a GUI frame (not necessarily on X), but that's all. There's no need to expose Xlib calls to Lisp, which was what the original question was about.