From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:55:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o8mz6fh0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tuwst23n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:35:56 +0300)
> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, ulm@gentoo.org,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:35:56 +0300
>
> >> I don't see a strong reason to limit ourselves to a single char, FWIW,
> >> so I think `u7` is fine for utf-7* (it should be very rare anyway).
> >
> > It must be a single character, but OTOH it doesn't have to be an ASCII
> > character.
>
> I don't know where the requirement for a single character comes from,
Look at the implementation of %z format on the mode line, and you will
see that it expects a single character.
> but since I can't memorize these cryptic characters, I customized
> the mode-line to display coding names in full, except a few characters
> that I can remember: "U" for UTF-8, and "-" for ASCII:
So on a TTY, you can have "UTF-8UTF-8UTF-8", if all the 3 encodings
are UTF-8? Or do you only handle buffer-file-coding-system and ignore
the other 2 encodings?
> A long coding string in the mode-line also serves as a warning that
> a non-standard coding is used in the buffer.
It's okay to customize the mode line to your personal needs, but are
you really proposing this for a general-purpose feature in Emacs?
Because then we'd need to start by deciding what is "non-standard" in
this context. For example, assuming the "standard" encoding is the
one determined by the locale, then if one lives in a non-UTF-8 locale,
they will always see "non-standard" strings in each and every .el file
they ever edit, which doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-24 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-23 11:46 Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-23 15:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-23 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 18:24 ` Paul Eggert
2020-08-23 18:53 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-23 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 19:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-23 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-23 21:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-24 7:06 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-24 14:30 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 11:17 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-24 14:36 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-24 15:23 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-24 16:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-07-05 10:08 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-05 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05 13:04 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-05 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05 21:50 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-05 22:11 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-06 8:51 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06 5:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 8:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 9:46 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06 12:34 ` Po Lu
2023-07-06 12:32 ` Po Lu
2023-07-06 12:31 ` Po Lu
2023-07-06 13:02 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-06 13:08 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-06 17:37 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-06 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 18:44 ` Ulrich Müller
2023-07-06 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 19:31 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 5:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 5:48 ` Ulrich Müller
2023-07-07 6:16 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 6:41 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 7:38 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 9:44 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 10:42 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 12:04 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 13:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 13:38 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 12:01 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 12:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-07 13:37 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 13:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-07 12:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 15:27 ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-08 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 16:21 ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-08 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 16:57 ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-08 18:21 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-08 21:31 ` Basil Contovounesios
2023-07-09 9:22 ` Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap (was: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?) Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-09 9:57 ` Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap Po Lu
2023-07-13 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-13 4:27 ` Po Lu
2023-07-13 22:07 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-14 5:05 ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-14 6:57 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-15 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-15 2:38 ` Po Lu
2023-07-15 5:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-07-15 5:50 ` Po Lu
2023-07-15 15:22 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-17 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-17 5:26 ` Paul Eggert
2023-07-17 2:32 ` Po Lu
2023-07-16 2:19 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-09 11:35 ` Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap (was: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?) Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 0:19 ` Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Po Lu
2023-07-06 12:27 ` Po Lu
2023-07-07 7:09 ` UTF-32 (was: Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?) Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 8:20 ` UTF-32 Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 10:16 ` UTF-32 Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 10:34 ` UTF-32 Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 12:49 ` UTF-32 Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-07 13:24 ` UTF-32 Andreas Schwab
2023-07-07 13:36 ` UTF-32 Ulrich Mueller
2023-07-07 14:06 ` UTF-32 Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05 12:49 ` Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? Stefan Monnier
2023-07-05 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-06 19:07 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-08-23 19:47 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-24 18:35 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-24 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-08-25 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-25 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
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