From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Would you say this information window is well designed? Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 21:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: <83o8gbvr4m.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83sg5oueex.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: laszlomail@protonmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 20:29:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGtp-0007Wn-G6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 20:29:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57076 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGto-00072v-HR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGt4-0005yN-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:28:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGt3-00058n-Ny; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4408 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGt0-0004o4-V6; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:28:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 22 Feb 2021 21:23:47 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265500 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 21:23:47 +0200 > > On 22.02.2021 20:48, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I won't object making something like that an optional feature, but > > doing this by default is annoying, IMO: it's too much unsolicited > > info. If, after reading the doc string, I want to look up the symbol > > in the Info manual, I can do that with 2 keystrokes, I don't need > > Emacs to show it to me unconditionally. > > The only extra info on the screenshot are the "View in manual" button > (which I would imagine you find appealing, given that it will lead more > users to read the manual) and the "References" section, which is not > essential, IMHO. The rest are mostly presentation. I _was_ talking about those two additions. (Though we don't see all of the buffer, only its top, so more surprises could be below.) > Though the "key bindings" section is interesting in that is also shows > the keymap where each bindings resides. This would have saved me some > extra debugging efforts in the past. Each one of these could be useful, but not all of them together, and not every time. It's too much. But as an opt-in feature, why not?