From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 2) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 21:44:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83o8dh3ybw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0bbdeece-90d5-160c-07ec-2ad8edbf9872@daniel-mendler.de> <87czudm7bv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <976056e8-3d46-db27-32c2-ddf3ca32d5a7@daniel-mendler.de> <878s5090e9.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <69fd42ed-a1a0-adcb-ac8b-caad80cb0967@daniel-mendler.de> <878s4zzpvc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <95ac7ef3-5e8c-fc58-b316-544096c82aa0@daniel-mendler.de> <87o8dus00b.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <6718c89f-88a0-b529-1676-7e89fc152f00@daniel-mendler.de> <878s4w3law.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sg2ymq6j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87r1ifpyuc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83eeef7nzh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eeed2l0q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3919"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mail@daniel-mendler.de, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 11 20:44:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgXMt-0000v2-TW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 20:44:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36210 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgXMt-0001Dp-12 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 14:44:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgXMQ-0000ZR-9Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2021 14:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgXMN-0007A4-Do; Tue, 11 May 2021 14:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3380 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgXMN-0006pt-0k; Tue, 11 May 2021 14:43:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87eeed2l0q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 11 May 2021 21:06:53 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269174 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 21:06:53 +0300 > Cc: mail@daniel-mendler.de, gregory@heytings.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >> +(defcustom read-char-by-name-group-sort nil > >> + "How to sort groups of characters for `read-char-by-name' completion. > >> +When t, sort sections of Unicode blocks alphabetically." > > > > This doesn't say what happens if the value is not t. And since the > > first sentence says "How to sort...", the idea that the result is > > unsorted group names doesn't come to mind naturally. > > Now read-char-by-name-group-sort is removed, since this can be > customized by completions-group-sort-function. And this is supposed to be progress? to force users to customize sorting by providing their own functions? IMO, it is a step backward, not forward: we are making Emacs harder to use for everyone who isn't a Lisp programmer. Btw, I don't see the variable you mention anywhere in the current master. What am I missing?