From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: xterm [menu] key definition Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:55:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83o89ku23n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20210819024728.kgnf6jmpakqdto4p.ref@Ergus> <20210819024728.kgnf6jmpakqdto4p@Ergus> <87mtp71i4s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20210824164036.caohbap24666ij35@Ergus> <20210824232033.ksesfe3ewflbsv63@Ergus> <83o89lvju4.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15160"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 08:56:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ9Jb-0003fx-2S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:56:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54026 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ9JZ-0001WH-Cv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 02:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ9If-0000fD-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 02:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52632) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ9Id-0001O2-Sz; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 02:55:43 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1676 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ9Id-0006Vd-G8; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 02:55:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:41:59 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273002 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, juri@linkov.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 18:41:59 -0400 > > > Yes. Which is why I wouldn't recommend touching it with a 3-mile pole. > > I took it as a dare and thus pushed Ergus's proposed change (duly > decorated with a bit of the story behind it). It would be nicer if you asked first, FWIW. > It's true that it may break someone's habits somewhere but I think the > new binding at least has the virtue of having a documented justification > for it, and it may prove beneficial to a few other users. > > Given the amount of discussion it raised, it feels like it deserves > a NEWS entry, yet when I tried to write it I ended up with: > > ** The escape sequence '\e[29~' in xterm is now mapped to 'menu' > Xterm sends this sequence for both 'F16' and 'Menu' keys. > It used to be mapped to 'print' but we couldn't find a terminal > that uses this sequence for any kind of 'Print' key. > > which seems so obscure that I'm not sure it's more helpful than harmful. > Opinion? Always good to have that, but it keeps silent about the main part: what and where is that "Menu" key on a modern keyboard?