From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:49:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83o89jqf9t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <87o89kw0hl.fsf@gnus.org> <0c369b25-aedd-1fdf-4813-503f27e42c7c@yandex.ru> <874kbbznwv.fsf@gmail.com> <8735qvwcqt.fsf@gmail.com> <20210827082508.GC5381@tuxteam.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31608"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 13:50:06 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaN4-0007xL-3y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:50:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42536 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaN2-0000qA-HY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaMK-0008P7-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:49:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaMK-0007TA-Bu; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:49:20 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4758 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaMJ-0000Pj-Pl; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:49:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20210827082508.GC5381@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273151 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:25:08 +0200 > From: > > > The other interesting trend I'm seeing is with many companies now > > working to minimise email as part of their internal/external workflows. > > Many companies are finding it a huge resource sink, cause of unnecessary > > stress/pressure on staff, source of significant security concerns and a > > real problem for records management. > > I have watched this process around the 2010s in one company. The > decision was made at top level (they were convinced by some Microsoft > salesperson [1] to switch to Office 365 instead of mail, because... > mail is old). Today, they still use mail, but have outsourced their > whole communications infrastructure to Microsoft, GDPR be dammed. Office 365 includes Outlook, so I don't think you interpret that move correctly. It is most probably meant to avoid maintaining email infrastructure in the company itself.