From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 08:08:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83o88t9kgb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20210912165141.9491.52637@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210912165143.5BC1E20A5E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <47d6e9a6-f334-eda9-2e08-0a946e51fc4a@yandex.ru> <83v934emk7.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfy8d7oo.fsf@gnus.org> <9194fc93-fb9c-000f-a35a-321ddd259893@gmx.at> <8735q5yi63.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czp9by3s.fsf@gnu.org> <05cbffe0-f89b-ff54-64f5-cd1d11bac4f5@yandex.ru> <831r5pbt7j.fsf@gnu.org> <83wnnhacy4.fsf@gnu.org> <40937e22-994f-466c-87be-4f70a522118a@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13326"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, dgutov@yandex.ru, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 16 07:09:06 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQjdy-0003Ku-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 07:09:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60990 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQjdw-0001yf-VZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 01:09:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQjd4-0001Cw-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 01:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQjd2-0007cX-2h; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 01:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2755 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQjd1-0005aX-LZ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 01:08:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:15:59 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274789 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , > juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:15:59 -0400 > > This is a typical bikeshed kind of question, so there's not much point > getting people to argue over it. The maintainers should make an > executive decision on it (but they do need to come to an agreement > among themselves ;-). We already had this discussion, and there was a conclusion. We decided to use '..' as the quoting style in plain-text documents. I've been using it everywhere since then. The main arguments were: . the ` character looks ugly on many modern displays . the Unicode quotes are not universally supported on text-mode terminals . therefore '..' has the least problems This discussion was a kind-of tangent of the dispute triggered by the changes in how we display `foo' quoted symbols in doc strings and echo-area messages. If we want '..' to be highlighted in some contexts, let's change font-lock to support that. And please remember that we are not talking only about comments, nor only about ELisp files. We are talking about all kinds of plain-text documentation: comments, Git commit log messages, NEWS, PROBLEMS, text files in admin/notes/, etc.