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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Inaccuracy in NEWS.28
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:26:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o82pluym.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fso22ryu.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 01 Mar 2022 12:54:01 +0800)

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 12:54:01 +0800
> 
> NEWS.28 says:
> 
>   Note that building with Cairo means using Pango instead of libXFT for
>   font support.  Since Pango 1.44 has removed support for bitmapped
>   fonts, this may require you to adjust your font settings.
> 
> But we don't use Pango anywhere except to parse GTK input method
> information and the output of the GTK font dialog.
> 
> Cairo text display is unrelated to Pango, and bitmapped fonts will work
> there as long as they are supported by FreeType.  Bitmapped fonts will
> also continue to work with the X server-side font driver, which is
> available in Cairo builds.
> 
> So would anyone mind me simply deleting that part of NEWS.28, since it
> is plain out wrong?

I'm not sure it's so plain wrong.  This text came out of prolonged
discussions we had back in January 2020 on emacs-devel, and it started
with this report:

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-01/msg00583.html

Please read that discussion, and also the followups:

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-01/msg00620.html
  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-01/msg00739.html
  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-01/msg00870.html

Maybe the description we now have in NEWS.28 is inaccurate, but the
problems were real.  So if you think mentioning Pango there is
incorrect (but please explain why, as I don't think I agree with your
reasoning: AFAIK Pango is the text layout engine used by Cairo), then
perhaps we should say something different there to convey the same
message.  And the message is still valid, AFAIK.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-01 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87fso22ryu.fsf.ref@yahoo.com>
2022-03-01  4:54 ` Inaccuracy in NEWS.28 Po Lu
2022-03-01 12:26   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-03-01 12:46     ` Po Lu
2022-03-01 13:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-01 13:22         ` Po Lu
2022-03-01 13:47           ` Robert Pluim
2022-03-01 14:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-02  0:56               ` Po Lu
2022-03-02  8:25                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-03-02  8:32                   ` Po Lu

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