From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 20:12:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83o7ud57v4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ill8paw7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83o7uzivey.fsf@gnu.org> <3ac9d2b9632f75018327a1bcde0c373f152c404a.camel@gmail.com> <835ygob7ja.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu45yq2s.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19392"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, liliana.prikler@gmail.com, rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 15 19:13:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojkjD-0004q1-7X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 19:13:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojkjB-000620-FD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 13:13:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34208) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojkiB-0005JP-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 13:12:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojkhy-00039z-EG; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 13:12:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=y1VxZsN3vntvAAwWNQbHwK56KRL6fTzY+qtpnVtC4JQ=; b=IvKRiQ2PaT80 yPoRRJ5dVIANKSHJ3PflzMldqR17Txz82/+8x6FYr3gpj+9Bv1zQFDuszsi87FpAoNUtHVGKKbHZN TB8W2glz+9X2njjivVoXUdZwCrAg8+1sjvkmv+Vl7/81Ql88jlFZjp98Hiqm/MVwrk0VKY72Enecv 2O2fcjUQgBxAgNtDJm3C2y4bWcxA54Rv9LUQevZKgirl3vIOoRFizozoRVPNOp2UxOCZP/Ce+UBoO Gxr14D6lm8oKdSgHeuAZOZmVWCQg5HgyN4+XnGxSdP/ZiA1KpgBOdUAJ5cNY+2z6yyhCMmxdCrDpO qsj2BRfhRVzPzhWm5AGINw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1425 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojkhx-00048G-Ls; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 13:12:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tu45yq2s.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (message from Sean Whitton on Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:06:03 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297802 Archived-At: > From: Sean Whitton > Cc: Liliana Marie Prikler , Eli Zaretskii > , rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 10:06:03 -0700 > > >> [2] https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/57878 > > > > Do we have a bug open on our (Emacs) side for this issue? > > Could it simply be that the async processes we launch to native-compile > > some file(s), themselves decide to launch more processes to native > > compile more files (or maybe even the same files)? > > Just for reference, Debian's filings for this issue: Thanks. > https://bugs.debian.org/1017817 This seems to be about byte-compilation? > https://bugs.debian.org/1017845 This is about trampolines indeed, and I believe we will have a solution VSN. P.S. I wish such problems didn't have to wait since August before they are communicated to us. If we were told back then about the problem, we could have it solved in Emacs 28.2...