From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Instead of pcase Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:52:19 +0200 Message-ID: <83o7fpkd7g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fs15kkk1.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jhi3qx3.fsf@web.de> <83y1etkiuq.fsf@gnu.org> <6f376b44-0d57-0398-b494-a4cfdfa6d38c@gutov.dev> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35350"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, luangruo@yahoo.com, jporterbugs@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 19 15:53:08 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r4jAZ-0008wj-Gr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2023 15:53:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4jAC-00017d-9k; Sun, 19 Nov 2023 09:52:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4jAA-00016R-Ce for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2023 09:52:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r4jAA-0001Ut-3E; Sun, 19 Nov 2023 09:52:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=PBy6R2rt59WDOe3JOBrC7riiwYkjMTUazbazE5ND9FU=; b=NLhYI7+cearO iVFfKbGAtgXXceJbu01Z0MVEvA/mKFl1nY3dluuigq3dVJ01DafvLRfvGQipctHGLZA4CTxvVZQ9u THNiFxQyhdw7x3HnsMLMsAyweq0clpyufVGllzbUucRwx+lpUwo3qaO/UjCNr+s9IYUSTjEXIC/4Z uCzfY0LfvfCHuqJ2M2GRuMkjTFHHbh6mWWN3jQXAdZriblvnoJuNAlakfQYee+11UJNkopna5j2ad /W8P+GxZQLgaXnv6APeJkuzHisGDcLnSk/j77gKOyLiFRznm0bEDtYDf2ItZmjD7yRuxYfGffGPh4 4/BmcMuwrfTcAdDA6os2zg==; In-Reply-To: <6f376b44-0d57-0398-b494-a4cfdfa6d38c@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:05:28 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312989 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:05:28 +0200 > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, jporterbugs@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 19/11/2023 14:50, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> From: Michael Heerdegen > >> Cc: Jim Porter,rms@gnu.org,emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 12:48:08 +0100 > >> > >> What I don't like here in this discussion is that some people are not > >> willing to accept that other people make different experiences with the > >> same things. > > This goes both ways, you know. > > The "other side" doesn't create threads with angry comments about the > developers with opposing views writing lower-level verbose code > (choo-choo trains, Joao called that), with calls to prohibit such practices. I meant this very thread. The very previous message, actually. > OTOH, enacting a ban on particular abstractions will just about > guarantee that certain kinds of features will not be implemented. That's a strawman: no one of those who set policies here suggested any bans. One should be able to post opinions for and against certain coding styles without being accuse in mortal sins.