From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:52:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mxzviio5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B646AD3.1010102@gmx.at>
> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:22:27 +0100
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-bidi@gnu.org
>
> > Why should it change from what it returns now?
>
> Because it's no more a window but a line property, IIUC. When, after
> scrolling the first line, you move `point' to show another portion of
> the second line like this
>
> +---------+---------+-------------------+
> |$ijk |abcdefgh$|abcdefghijk |
> |KJIHGFED$|$HGFEDCBA| KJIHGFEDCBA|
> | | | |
> +---------+---------+-------------------+
>
> you get two different non-zero values of `window-hscroll'.
No, you don't necessarily get two different values. The value from
the second line defines a scroll from the right margin, not from the
left. (Which probably means it's not a good idea to have
window-hscroll return a negative value in that case.)
> > Or are you saying that we should scroll the R2L lines to the right by
> > as much as we scroll the L2R lines to the left? That is, are you
> > saying we should display the last example as
> >
> >
> > +---------+---------+-------------------+
> > |$ijk |abcdefgh$|abcdefghijk |
> > | KJI$|$HGFEDCBA| KJIHGFEDCBA|
> > | | | |
> > +---------+---------+-------------------+
> >
> > Is this what you are suggesting?
>
> This would be needlessly inconvenient.
Why inconvenient? That's what would happen if the second line was
displayed at the left margin, like this:
+---------+---------+-------------------+
|$ijk |abcdefgh$|abcdefghijk |
|$IJK |$HGFEDCBA| KJIHGFEDCBA|
| | | |
+---------+---------+-------------------+
The advantage is that all the lines scroll in lockstep, albeit in two
different directions, and `window-hscroll' can still return a single
value whose meaning is well defined.
> Hence, `window-hscroll' should probably return the value for the
> line `window-point' is on.
That's also possible. Are the users of this function normally
interested only in the amount of scroll of the current line?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-30 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-30 13:44 Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 15:14 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-30 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 16:36 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-30 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 17:22 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-30 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-01-30 18:31 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-30 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 19:45 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-30 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-31 9:36 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-31 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-31 20:01 ` martin rudalics
2010-01-31 21:53 ` Miles Bader
2010-02-01 4:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-01 8:34 ` martin rudalics
2010-02-01 4:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-01 8:34 ` martin rudalics
2010-02-01 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-02 8:08 ` martin rudalics
2010-02-02 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-03 16:06 ` martin rudalics
2010-02-01 21:05 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02 8:08 ` martin rudalics
2010-02-02 13:23 ` tomas
2010-02-02 14:39 ` martin rudalics
2010-02-02 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 6:29 ` tomas
2010-02-02 21:21 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-06 6:35 ` tomas
2010-02-06 14:46 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-06 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02 21:21 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 23:26 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-31 12:42 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-31 15:02 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-31 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-31 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-01 21:05 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-01 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-02 21:21 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-01 14:00 ` Ehud Karni
2010-02-01 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-01 22:05 ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-02-02 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-03 13:10 ` Ehud Karni
2010-02-03 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-04 11:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 15:14 ` [emacs-bidi] " Stefan Monnier
2010-02-04 15:57 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-04 17:21 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-04 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-04 20:46 ` [emacs-bidi] " tomas
2010-02-04 22:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 6:41 ` [emacs-bidi] " tomas
2010-02-04 22:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-04 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 12:44 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 18:06 ` [emacs-bidi] " Stefan Monnier
2010-02-05 21:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-07 4:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-07 8:35 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-07 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 14:02 ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-02-04 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-04 19:48 ` [emacs-bidi] " Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 6:52 ` tomas
2010-02-03 21:02 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-04 4:16 ` Bidirectional embeddings (was: Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll) Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-04 16:21 ` [emacs-bidi] Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Ehud Karni
2010-02-04 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-04 22:13 ` [emacs-bidi] " Stefan Monnier
2010-02-05 9:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 18:06 ` [emacs-bidi] " Stefan Monnier
2010-02-06 13:39 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-06 15:45 ` Ehud Karni
2010-02-06 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 21:18 ` [emacs-bidi] " David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-11 21:40 ` Beni Cherniavsky
2010-02-12 11:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-12 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 12:21 ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-02-05 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 14:22 ` Miles Bader
2010-02-05 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 1:07 ` Miles Bader
2010-02-06 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 9:32 ` Miles Bader
2010-02-06 15:42 ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-02-06 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-03 13:22 ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-02-03 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-04 14:08 ` [emacs-bidi] " Ehud Karni
2010-02-01 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
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