From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:47:19 +0300 Message-ID: <83mw95it14.fsf@gnu.org> References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87zjd9swfj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oatnqpml.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k34b8diu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877g0aq6v0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvex7vq1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87vbntpvbf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412840852 24819 80.91.229.3 (9 Oct 2014 07:47:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 07:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 09 09:47:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xc8RW-0008SP-1a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:47:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40915 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xc8RV-0004Ok-NB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 03:47:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56144) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xc8RO-0004OP-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 03:47:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xc8RK-0005ZC-6t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 03:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:34391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xc8RF-0005WI-A9; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 03:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0ND6004002GJJ700@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:42:16 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0ND600NOJ2QGS250@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:42:16 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87vbntpvbf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175172 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:16:04 +0900 > Cc: rms@gnu.org, mhw@netris.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org > > Until you demonstrate at least a shred of understanding of something > as fundamental as the differences in security requirements and > attack surfaces of network *servers* and network *clients*, there's > no point in discussing your statements further. This kind of "argument" will get you no points here, cf Ian Grant.