From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The poor state of documentation of pcase like things. Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 17:52:18 +0200 Message-ID: <83mvsl7365.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151216202605.GA3752@acm.fritz.box> <87bn95m9eg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5686CDFB.2010105@dancol.org> <83fuygcs5g.fsf@gnu.org> <56886E32.70305@yandex.ru> <83si2f9ve4.fsf@gnu.org> <56889EC3.3040108@yandex.ru> <877fjrkpdf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56892334.4000106@yandex.ru> <8760zakb7q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56892BDA.6060103@dancol.org> <871t9yk98g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <568936F0.3060505@yandex.ru> <87wprqitj5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56893C8C.3060200@yandex.ru> <87oad2irtd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5689456A.1010601@yandex.ru> <87egdy8tyz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56895FDE.4060406@yandex.ru> <8760za8r4a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9iunkcg.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451922760 23328 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2016 15:52:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 16:52:40 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7Qz-0000oL-Gy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:52:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45583 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7Qy-00051d-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:52:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58725) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7Qd-0004yO-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:52:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7Qc-0008Eq-W3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:52:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7Qc-0008Ek-SU; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:52:14 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3027 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7Qc-0002Rd-9J; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:52:14 -0500 In-reply-to: <87h9iunkcg.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:34:39 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197602 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:34:39 +0100 > > After all, despite of the tone on both sides, I think we came to > some conclusions: > > - The pcase docs must be updated, esp. wrt quoting/ backquote, and > missing stuff (e.g. first matching branches' body is executed, > remaining branches are ignored). > > - We should not use it in cases where a different thing (esp. cl-case) > exactly fits. "Promoters" should use it sparse in contributions and > only in cases where it improves readability or makes the case > distinction clearer (given the reader read the documentation). Others > should accept that some people find it handy and will use it in such > cases in their contributions. > > - Occurrences in the sources must be revised. 100% agreement. Hope to see the documentation patches some time soon. Thanks.