From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:54:16 +0300 Message-ID: <83muspo12f.fsf@gnu.org> References: < <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83o9d5q1bi.fsf@gnu.org> > <<83tvmxo3iy.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536591304 1364 195.159.176.226 (10 Sep 2018 14:55:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 16:55:00 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fzNaY-0008Rf-Qk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:54:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52066 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzNcf-0006d0-4q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:57:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzNcP-0006Y5-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzNZp-0002m1-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:54:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41439) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fzNZp-0002lt-9N; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2663 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fzNZo-0006HJ-RP; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:54:09 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:30:08 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229639 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:30:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > And, btw, I find nothing wring with this habit of mine, the only > > problem here is that someone decided that "C-x C-x" should activate > > the region. > > Yes. `transient-mark-mode' does it. > > Consider a replacement for `C-x C-x' that does not activate > the region. If you mean for everybody (i.e. by default), then I'd welcome patches to that effect, and maybe that would be a first step towards making delete-selection-mode on by default without annoying veteran Emacs users who are fast typist. If you mean for my own use, then it should be clear to you that my own problems with this were solved long ago by my customizations. All this thread is not about my usability problem, it's about everyone else.