From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 14:14:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83mu6hfjgx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <87wo5mc04t.fsf@fastmail.fm> <835zd5h6tq.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="83928"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 13:16:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXNSe-000Lin-5f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 13:16:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54366 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXNSc-00079X-G0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 07:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXNRp-0006am-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 07:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXNRo-0002at-Oh; Sat, 09 May 2020 07:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2470 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXNRf-0008R3-Kw; Sat, 09 May 2020 07:15:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Philippe Vaucher on Sat, 9 May 2020 12:56:03 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249400 Archived-At: > From: Philippe Vaucher > Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:56:03 +0200 > Cc: Richard Stallman , Joost Kremers , > Emacs developers > > > > - As far as I know you are the only one who objected strongly against > > > s.el in ELPA (others please voice your opinion if you think like > > > Richard). This created an atmosphere of people fearing that you would > > > use your authority to "veto" such adoption despite Stefan Monnier & > > > others wanting s.el in ELPA. I think you need to clarify your > > > position/power here. > > > > Richard also proposed a compromise which AFAIU would allow it to be > > added. For some reason, that proposal got no responses at all. > > I tried to find that compromise again, all I found was "See my message > to Stefan for a change that would make s.el ok to add." but could not > find this message. If you would be so kind as to quote Richard again > so I have his perspective. Look here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg00850.html > Can you give it another try? And if you still don't understand I'll > explain it another way. Please believe me when I say that my interpretation of what you wrote is such and such.