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> From: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 16:59:11 +0200
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> I defined 10,000 dummy abbrevs (a1 .. a10000) and used the profiler to compare
> memory usage and... I did not get any conclusive results. And between runs I get different
> memory values reported.

The "memory" profiler doesn't really measure memory consumption, it
just uses memory-allocation calls as a poor-man's timer that ticks
frequently enough.

IOW, don't use the "memory" profiler if you need to profile memory
consumption.  We don't (yet) have such a beast in Emacs.