From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:13:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83mtut7pyq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg4n9jei.fsf@gnu.org> <271290d7aac58f2f9e96@heytings.org> <83czvr9hvc.fsf@gnu.org> <271290d7aa69bbcaa204@heytings.org> <83lfae8fbg.fsf@gnu.org> <22aaf0fadd0894af49d9@heytings.org> <83v99i6ink.fsf@gnu.org> <22aaf0fadd0870c0e9f8@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17928"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 19:27:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOlkH-0004Tt-Lj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:27:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOlkG-0001wK-FU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 14:27:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOkbD-0000b5-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:13:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOkbB-0004s6-Ey; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:13:46 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3076 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lOkb9-00017R-Vh; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:13:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <22aaf0fadd0870c0e9f8@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:51:47 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266883 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:51:47 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >> I see your points, but all this is rather sad, because it means that > >> Emacs is forever locked by what looks very much like a historical > >> accident. > > > > I disagree, on both counts: Emacs isn't locked, and what we have is not > > an accident. > > I think you understood what I meant: the "C-o" key is locked in the > default bindings, and the fact that "C-o" was bound to open-line is a > historical accident. Yes, understood and disagreed with both.