From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:54:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83mtp3qezw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <87o89kw0hl.fsf@gnus.org> <0c369b25-aedd-1fdf-4813-503f27e42c7c@yandex.ru> <874kbbznwv.fsf@gmail.com> <8735qvwcqt.fsf@gmail.com> <20210827082508.GC5381@tuxteam.de> <87y28nuqkx.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 13:56:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaT2-0005gp-72 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:56:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44728 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaT1-0002lF-3G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:56:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaSA-00026N-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaSA-0003JV-Ax; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1146 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJaS4-0000um-4U; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:55:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y28nuqkx.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:47:33 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273152 Archived-At: > From: Tim Cross > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:47:33 +1000 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > However, this largely pre-dates the drive to move away from email. > Email, regardless how it is provided, is a problem for companies. It is > a major source of security problem, it is a nightmare for records > management, policy and regulation compliance and a major impediment in > business workflow automation. While I doubt any company will stop using > email completely, they are definitely moving way from having it as a key > technology in their business processes. There are no good replacements of email for companies that do business with remote partners/clients. On-line meetings aren't a good solution, especially when issues are confidential and/or you need a record of what was said. Security issues with email have been solved long time ago, so shouldn't prevent anyone from using email. Where I work during my day time, email is very much alive and kicking, and we all have email clients on our smartphones, so we could respond very quickly to any important developments. I can tell you that with our email-based workflows, we run circles around those of our partners and competitors who don't.