From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Sending attachments Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:18:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83ljn324xd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k52rzyn1.fsf@benthic.rattlesnake.com> <873a9fw6dt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87y6r7yp1y.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <0922916E-B9DD-41C4-8A3D-8550CDD56B62@mit.edu> <83r5ww1m3k.fsf@gnu.org> <871vovsvi8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246763940 9812 80.91.229.12 (5 Jul 2009 03:19:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 03:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org, yandros@MIT.EDU, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 05 05:18:53 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MNIFg-00019y-Pt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:18:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42711 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MNIFf-000617-QH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MNIFZ-0005yS-Oc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MNIFY-0005x0-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55683 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MNIFY-0005ws-CN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:35817) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MNIFW-00020f-A8; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout3.012.net.il ([84.95.2.7]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MNIFU-0004il-RS; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:18:41 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout3.012.net.il by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KMA00700GZ5EE00@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:18:39 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.102.107]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KMA008FVH72JB00@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:18:39 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <871vovsvi8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112030 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68638 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Cc: Chad Brown , Katsumi Yamaoka , > emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org > Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:39:59 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Could you please post a list of the features you had in mind, so that > > the effort could be estimated? > > Important things: Thanks. > 1. Proper handling of non-ascii text. For instance: > > a. Proper encoding of non-ascii headers (using "=?" notation) > b. Ability to use other transfer encodings besides 8-bit > c. Ability to automatically choose different character encodings > depending on the language/context/whatever (e.g., for many > cases, the "standard" isn't utf-8). I think this is not really related to attaching files. > 3. The ability to handle the various quirks of sending netnews as > opposed to email (they're similar in many ways, but obviously not > all). And this is out of scope for mail-mode, which (AFAIK) does not support news. > p.s. A probably unrelated problem, which made testing a bit annoying: > I can't actually send _any_ mail with mail-mode, because my ISP's > mail-forwarder rejects any messages generated with it! I'm not quite > sure what extra headers or whatever message-mode adds, but I have no > problems with mail sent using message-mode... If you find out why that happens and post the info here, perhaps someone could fix the problems causing it. FWIW, I use mail-mode for many years with many different ISPs with no problems at all.