From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: using libmagic in Emacs?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:49:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ljl0ae9j.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874orp58fp.fsf@mail.jurta.org>
> From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se
> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:54:34 +0300
>
> >> I agree that running `file' is a simpler solution.
> >
> > PLEASE do not base Emacs infrastructure on external programs, unless
> > they come with Emacs.
>
> There are many features in Emacs that depend on external programs,
> e.g. `ls' for dired, `find' and `grep', `man', `ispell', `shell',
> `gdb', `diff', VCS tools, etc.
I said infrastructure, not features. Of those you mentioned only `ls'
is used in infrastructure, and that's precisely why we had to write
ls-lisp.el.
> > `file' is not available on every platform, and even on those it is,
>
> When `libmagic' is available, then usually `file' is available as well
> on the same platform.
No. libmagic can be bundled and compiled with Emacs. `file' needs to
be present.
> > In any case, invoking external programs without being smart about
> > their non-existence is not something we should have in Emacs.
>
> My patch fails gracefully when `file' is not available, I tried
> removing `file' without any problem. The function just returns nil.
And that is graceful how?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-31 2:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-18 18:35 using libmagic in Emacs? joakim
2009-08-18 19:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-18 20:01 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-18 20:35 ` joakim
2009-08-18 21:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-19 2:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-19 3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-19 13:47 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-19 15:57 ` joakim
2009-08-19 19:46 ` next bugfix release? [was: Re: using libmagic in Emacs?] Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-19 21:06 ` next bugfix release? Chong Yidong
2009-08-19 21:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-19 22:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-08-19 23:16 ` Nick Roberts
2009-08-20 9:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-20 11:19 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-20 15:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-08-20 15:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-19 19:05 ` installing features on trunk (was: using libmagic in Emacs?) Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-21 18:59 ` Bidi support Stefan Monnier
2009-08-21 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-22 3:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-22 8:18 ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-22 5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-22 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-24 1:45 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-08-24 3:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-24 7:17 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-08-24 3:25 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-19 0:57 ` using libmagic in Emacs? Juri Linkov
2009-08-20 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-22 23:36 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-24 0:07 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-24 0:17 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-24 7:33 ` joakim
2009-08-25 2:08 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-25 2:19 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-25 5:09 ` joakim
2009-08-25 13:27 ` James Cloos
2009-08-25 21:41 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2009-08-25 17:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-25 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-29 23:19 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-30 3:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-30 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-31 2:49 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-08-31 16:17 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-31 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-01 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-01 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-03 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-04 7:52 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 3:33 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 15:03 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-31 16:19 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-31 23:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01 3:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-09-01 5:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-25 20:36 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-19 22:49 ` joakim
2009-08-19 23:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-20 1:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-20 3:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-20 4:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-20 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-21 0:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-20 18:32 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-21 19:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-22 5:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-23 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-20 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-20 19:19 ` joakim
2009-08-20 22:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-08-21 9:55 ` joakim
2009-08-21 11:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-21 17:38 ` joakim
2009-08-21 17:46 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-08-21 18:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-08-21 19:13 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-21 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-21 21:48 ` joakim
2009-08-21 22:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-08-22 20:18 ` joakim
2009-08-22 23:13 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-23 23:38 ` joakim
2009-08-24 3:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-24 12:30 ` joakim
2009-08-23 3:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-21 19:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-21 13:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-08-20 18:32 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-20 20:27 ` Reiner Steib
2009-08-21 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-21 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-28 0:27 ` Language identification (was: using libmagic in Emacs) Juri Linkov
2009-08-28 4:58 ` Language identification Stefan Monnier
2009-08-28 9:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-28 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-29 4:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-29 14:21 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-29 0:46 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-29 4:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-29 15:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-29 16:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-28 19:16 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-29 1:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-30 16:01 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-29 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-29 22:48 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-31 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 8:42 ` David Kastrup
2009-08-31 8:59 ` Jan D.
2009-08-31 3:33 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-28 6:45 ` Alex Ott
2009-08-28 6:46 ` Alex Ott
2009-08-28 19:08 ` Juri Linkov
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