From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:52:28 +0300 Message-ID: <83lhpi2w2r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <87zjdyct30.fsf@air.ben-zion.org> <87d2auwewf.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410961978 23344 80.91.229.3 (17 Sep 2014 13:52:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cwebber@dustycloud.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, brown@fastmail.fm, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 17 15:52:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUFf8-0006TF-V7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:52:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45192 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUFf8-0004fW-M0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:52:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34454) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUFez-0004YQ-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:52:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUFes-0005UH-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:52913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUFes-0005Te-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:52:34 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NC100400SUH0E00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:46:52 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NC100I2OSY4B4B0@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:46:52 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87d2auwewf.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174424 Archived-At: > From: Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer > Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:33:04 +0200 > Cc: Christopher Allan Webber , > Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Note that Guile-Emacs runs existing Elisp as-is and is basically a > drop-in replacement. But that's not really true, is it? Just look at the changes made in the Guile-Emacs repo to core Lisp files, and you will see what I mean. Btw, I admit I don't completely understand what the wiki says about the problems with t and nil, but if that means you cannot say in Guile-Emacs something like (if (eq foo t) ... then there are more than 700 places in Emacs that will stop working.