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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, nandryshak@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: string> missing?
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:40:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lhfxnxv0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wpzhc2i7.fsf@gnu.org>

> From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
> Cc: rms@gnu.org,  nicolas@petton.fr,  nandryshak@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:40:48 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >>   > You say that this goal no longer exists, but the practice of Emacs
> >>   > maintenance tells me otherwise.  We are still making optimization
> >>   > changes, some of them quite deep and pervasive ones, for very little
> >>   > benefits, like a few percents decrease in memory footprint or in CPU
> >>   > usage, even under the most favorable conditions.
> >> 
> >> Adding string> might be 200 bytes.  Saving 200 bytes is insignificant.
> >
> > It was also insignificant back when you decided not to include it.
> 
> Adding string> to Emacs proper is maybe additional 200 bytes but may
> save a multiple of its size when packages start using it instead of
> defining their own version each.  For example, there are already
> gnus-string>, org-string>, and also org-string>=.  And there are also
> quite many lambdas implementing string>, e.g., in emacs/lisp/help.el, so
> the addition of string> can in fact reduce the Emacs footprint if it
> gets used there.

All of that was true back when Richard made his decision.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-06  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-03  9:05 string> missing? Nicolas Petton
2015-06-03 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-03 15:03   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-06-03 15:26     ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-03 15:46       ` Nick Andryshak
2015-06-03 15:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-03 16:10           ` Nick Andryshak
2015-06-03 16:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-03 16:50               ` Nick Andryshak
2015-06-03 18:10                 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-06-03 19:13                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-03 19:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-03 19:34                   ` Nick Andryshak
2015-06-03 19:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-03 20:11                       ` Nick Andryshak
2015-06-03 20:37                         ` Jay Belanger
2015-06-03 20:53                           ` Nick Andryshak
2015-06-03 21:35                             ` Jay Belanger
2015-06-03 21:36                     ` Thibaut Verron
2015-06-03 22:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-04  5:30                         ` Thibaut Verron
2015-06-04  7:44                           ` Nicolas Richard
2015-06-04  8:08                             ` Thibaut Verron
2015-06-04 15:33                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-03 22:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-04  2:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-04  6:43                         ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-04  7:02                           ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-06-04  7:53                           ` Gnus & Mail-Followup-To (was: string> missing?) Nicolas Richard
2015-06-04  9:04                             ` Gnus & Mail-Followup-To Tassilo Horn
2015-06-04 12:50                               ` Nicolas Richard
2015-06-05 17:07                                 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-06  8:48                                   ` Nicolas Richard
2015-06-04  4:20                       ` string> missing? Thierry Volpiatto
2015-06-04 15:52                       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-06-03 21:24                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-06-04 15:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-05 17:56                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-06-05 19:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-05 20:40                         ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-05 21:35                           ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-06-05 21:53                             ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-05 22:04                               ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-06  6:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-06-06  8:53                             ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-07  0:28                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-06-06  1:52                         ` Richard Stallman
2015-06-06  7:57                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-07  0:28                             ` Richard Stallman

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