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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:55:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lha4jly2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2mvukffhm.fsf@Vulcan.attlocal.net>

> From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
> Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com,  bruce.connor.am@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:28:05 -0800
> 
> > You are welcome to re-reading the past discussions about
> > electric-indent-mode.  Good luck keeping your sanity while at that ;-)
> 
> Looking at electric-indent-mode, the defaults are actually quite sane: The
> only thing that engages electric indentation by default is insertion of a
> newline. The user can also manually engage it using C-j.

It looks sane, yes, but it has some surprising consequences.  E.g.,
this:

   http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=19093

> One way to fix this is to set a default for `electric-indent-functions' that
> pays attention to this particular scenario, and suppresses electric indent in
> that case. This leaves it open to users to customize away the suppression.
> 
> This keeps the electric default, and C-o-at-0 users are not surprised. Does
> that sound reasonable?

To me, nothing about electric-indent-mode is reasonable.  I don't mind
swapping C-m and C-j, if that's what will keep me sane.  If
electric-indent-mode did just that, perhaps I'd be fine with it.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-11 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-11 18:08 Questioning the new behavior of `open-line' Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 18:51 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 18:58   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 19:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 19:13       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 19:39         ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 20:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:17             ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:33               ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 20:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-11 20:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:58                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:08                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 21:13                     ` John Wiegley
2015-11-12  7:59                       ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-11 21:53                     ` David Kastrup
2015-11-11 21:52               ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12  0:08                 ` Rasmus
2015-11-12  8:06                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 10:00                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 11:08                       ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 11:18                         ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-12 13:11                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 14:16                           ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 14:44                             ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-12 14:52                               ` Rasmus
2015-11-12 14:54                                 ` Yuri Khan
2015-11-12 15:38                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 16:20                                     ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 16:33                                       ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
     [not found]                                         ` <CAAdUY-LVoXm-c+Cv8Gx6h+d40YDoK4rJp1U6Tw+Gc+yCOVee=g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-13  1:17                                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-13  6:04                                             ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2015-11-14 12:34                                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-14 19:39                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-17  0:42                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-17  0:53                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-17  3:46                                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-11-17 22:57                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-17 23:16                                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-18 17:25                                                           ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-17 23:20                                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-18 20:32                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-18 21:03                                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-19 23:34                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-19 23:57                                                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-14 21:59                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12 14:57                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-12 16:09                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-12 15:26                               ` Rasmus
2015-11-11 20:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 20:28           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:55             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-11 21:00               ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:17                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-11 21:30                   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 22:40                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 19:20       ` Paul Eggert
2015-11-11 19:25         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 20:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-11 21:50 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-11 22:24 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-11 21:31   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-11 21:46     ` Karl Fogel
2015-11-12  7:38 ` Andreas Röhler

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