From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs on MSYS2 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 23:03:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83lh4ed4ht.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56CCD91E.6070507@alice.it> <570C4307.6050907@alice.it> <83k2k2g82s.fsf@gnu.org> <570EA823.1010404@alice.it> <570EBADD.2060604@cs.ucla.edu> <570EC198.5090407@alice.it> <570EF300.3050104@cs.ucla.edu> <570F4EC7.3060403@alice.it> <83twj4dx7q.fsf@gnu.org> <878u0gyyge.fsf_-_@wanadoo.es> <570FC0BC.8030709@cs.ucla.edu> <874mb4yxqi.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83potsduv5.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb3kxho5.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83mvowdru7.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3e8x88h.fsf@wanadoo.es> <571102B8.8010004@cs.ucla.edu> <87inziyjb5.fsf@wanadoo.es> <57112544.5050508@cs.ucla.edu> <87d1pqycsz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <57113DC4.4010303@cs.ucla.edu> <878u0ey81k.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460750632 21451 80.91.229.3 (15 Apr 2016 20:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 20:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 22:03:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ar9y2-0007S4-Er for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 22:03:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41185 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar9y1-0000sH-PH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar9xm-0000oj-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:03:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar9xj-0006sn-FS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:03:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar9xj-0006sg-CV; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2352 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ar9xi-0002TT-Nk; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:03:31 -0400 In-reply-to: <878u0ey81k.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93sca?= =?utf-8?Q?r?= Fuentes on Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:40:55 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:202969 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:40:55 +0200 > > Paul Eggert writes: > > > On 04/15/2016 10:58 AM, Óscar Fuentes wrote: > >> Which is irrelevant for the user who builds Emacs, isn't it? > > > > Yes, and this supports Eli's point. Generally speaking, it's better to > > keep the MSYS2 build simple so that it tracks mainline Emacs > > development. > > Why? The MSYS2 build for emacs-git (or any other package) is configured > for the MSYS2 user's convenience, as per the best judgement of the > PKGBUILD author. If there are problems in the upstream build procedure that fail to account for some use case, that use case should be brought to the project's attention, so that the maintainers could decide if and how they'd like to support that use case. Deviating from the upstream build procedure without talking with the project is not a good idea, IMO. Especially so since quite a few people who use the deviant procedure are active participants in emacs-devel discussions and report bugs, which could well be (and in fact were in the past found to be) the result of the deviation. > Neither you nor I agree with that decision, but that's a different > topic. Maybe the author knows something that we ignore. Or maybe he is > simply imposing his personal preferences and prejudices. We don't know. All I say is that I urge people to use the official build procedure. If you or someone else wants to talk to the author, or invite him/her to discuss this here, that's a bonus. Thanks.