From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:40:40 +0300 Message-ID: <83lgmzyjon.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o9sp7qok.fsf@gmail.com> <87zic9vk98.fsf@mouse> <87fue17mo5.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw2hvhob.fsf@mouse> <8760ex63hi.fsf@gmail.com> <87fue1v5lr.fsf@mouse> <87shi0tqh3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d18fwl66.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw1rihu0.fsf@mouse> <4037dc81-4245-6925-842a-2c84a5ba996d@cs.ucla.edu> <87pocfibky.fsf@mouse> <873798j2ij.fsf@mouse> <87h8xobg9p.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501825272 19477 195.159.176.226 (4 Aug 2017 05:41:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 05:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 04 07:41:05 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVM8-0004OO-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 07:41:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36401 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVM9-0002Mb-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53770) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVM0-0002Ln-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:40:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVLw-000318-VZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVLw-00030l-Ql; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:40:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4188 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddVLw-000582-1T; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:40:52 -0400 In-reply-to: <87h8xobg9p.fsf@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:30:42 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217279 Archived-At: > From: Ted Zlatanov > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:30:42 -0400 > > SM> This problem keeps occurring, so we simply need to solve it once an for > SM> all: provide a new variant of `message` which OT1H guarantees that this > SM> message will be visible for a minimum of N seconds, and OTOH > SM> guarantees that it won't be repeated more than once every M seconds (M > SM> being probably large enough to be counted in hours). > > I'd love that. I think the `notifications-notify' function would be a > good delegate on platforms that support it, and a suitable fallback could > be developed for the rest of the platforms. notifications-notify only works in GUI sessions, so TTY sessions will need a fallback that will probably still use the echo area. Personally, I don't think notifications-notify is suitable for this even in GUI sessions, but that's me.