From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make the compilation slightly less verbose? Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 10:54:08 +0300 Message-ID: <83lfy3wafz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y324duun.fsf@igel.home> <83y324vvsz.fsf@gnu.org> <20190614192849.GC23182@ACM> <83sgsbwfpt.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="148453"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: acm@muc.de, larsi@gnus.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 15 09:54:43 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hc3WN-000cRR-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:54:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59168 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hc3WK-0001RS-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 03:54:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hc3Vl-0001R7-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 03:54:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:32912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hc3Vk-0001Fu-0L; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 03:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1915 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hc3Vj-0002pF-4c; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 03:54:03 -0400 In-reply-to: <83sgsbwfpt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:00:14 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237656 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:00:14 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I'm saying that it's very easy to invoke Make with the relevant > option, if you don't like this output. I definitely remember a few > situations where this very output helped me debug some user's problems > with the build, so making this the default will make such debugging a > tad more difficult. > > That said, I'm not going to fight this change. Please make the change be conditioned on the verbosity, i.e. I'd very much like it if "make V=1" would still emit these messages. Thanks.