From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Algorithm in electric-pair--unbalanced-strings-p unsuitable for CC Mode Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 05:33:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83lfxebkaa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190702131632.GA30597@ACM> <20190702160410.GB30597@ACM> <20190702182811.GC30597@ACM> <20190703105804.GA11238@ACM> <20190703133217.GC11238@ACM> <83r277az4g.fsf@gnu.org> <20190703205457.GD11238@ACM> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="180336"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 04 04:34:24 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hirZo-000kol-CP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 04:34:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hirZn-0001wQ-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:34:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48551) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hirZR-0001wI-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hirZQ-0003CH-Mu; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:34:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3246 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hirZQ-0004P7-4S; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:34:00 -0400 In-reply-to: <20190703205457.GD11238@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:54:57 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:238344 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 20:54:57 +0000 > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > > Yes. As you'll have noticed, this is an adversarial debate rather than > > > a constructive cooperation > > > It is only an adversarial debate if you two make it so. I suggest to > > respond as if you don't perceive the adversarial aspects, and expect > > the other side to do the same. > > I've been trying that. It's not been working well. Nevertheless, I urge you to keep doing that. > > > Besides, other people will read this post, and they'll have to remain > > > mystified, or put in the work themselves. Giving a cryptic, rather than > > > a meaningful, reference thus costs more time than it saves. > > > That ship has sailed when we switched to Git. It is not wise, to say > > the least, to impregnate this discussion, which is already loaded with > > emotions, with yet another emotional reaction against something that > > no one can do anything about. > > That is not true. A policy decision could be taken now to apply to > future commit references. I can understand you not wanting to lay down > such a policy, however. We actually have such a policy, but it isn't working, and I don't think it will ever do. > Conversely, I will feel free to ignore a bare git commit hash, for > example when I'm tired, or feeling harrassed, or the tone of the post > containing it is unfriendly, or, quite bluntly, when I just can't be > bothered. I advise against that.