From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GUI X-FreeDesktop integration Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:01:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83lf7y6ptc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <7f52af92-4fb5-74b4-232a-eabfa315ac0@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <8335u9bsc5.fsf@gnu.org> <983c9c1-668f-4b82-896-9d41abfef910@froglet.home.mavit.org.uk> <834ken80xt.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtse7jox.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22391"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 29 08:03:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lms48-0005cG-7H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 08:03:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58858 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lms47-0007fl-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 02:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36610) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lms2c-0005MI-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 May 2021 02:01:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lms2b-0007wU-I9; Sat, 29 May 2021 02:01:45 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3393 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lms2b-0000Jr-5f; Sat, 29 May 2021 02:01:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from chad on Fri, 28 May 2021 13:05:30 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270027 Archived-At: > From: chad > Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 13:05:30 -0700 > Cc: Peter Oliver , > EMACS development team > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:16 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I suggest to do this the other way around: make this new behavior > optional, until we are sure people expect that. > [...] We shouldn't bend our thinking > like that, just because we see some trend in other applications and > think we can easily follow it with something similar. > > Sure, the conservative approach works here also. What I was suggesting was basically "let's give the distros > both options and ask/see which they pick". Since we're generally sensitive to changing defaults on releases, > I think there are ways to ask before releasing, but the data collection is likely to be sparse. Distros can do whatever they like anyway, and we have no real control of that.