From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs default bindings Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 16:48:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83lf47mb4z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <01341bd6-b94b-4f94-1461-405e723142ad@yandex.ru> <8735qmjklm.fsf@localhost> <87ilzi86h7.fsf@posteo.net> <875yvh9anq.fsf@posteo.net> <83o899yjh2.fsf@gnu.org> <83ilzbo9jj.fsf@gnu.org> <3283dcc3-1abf-3fb1-7c54-cd6bed105cf8@yandex.ru> <87k0jrxk5l.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39679"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 08 15:49:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxwv-0009w4-Dl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:49:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxwt-00062T-Iy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxvv-0004yu-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:48:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxvu-0004oZ-1f; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2973 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxvn-0003UH-Lt; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:48:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k0jrxk5l.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:37:58 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274342 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, > danflscr@gmail.com, lokedhs@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:37:58 +0200 > > I haven't really been following this thread, but it's about making > `show-paren-mode' default in Emacs 28? I'm not sure that's quite the > right thing to do at this point -- as bug#29381 points out, it probably > shouldn't be a global minor mode, but should instead be a globalized > minor mode (since that'll make it easier to switch on/off on a > per-major-mode basis). > > So it should be rewritten as a show-paren-mode/show-paren-local-mode and > then enabled, but that's too late for Emacs 28. FWIW, I don't think that minor issue should prevent us from turning it on. Many people do that, so the problems in bug#29381 cannot be too grave. We could fix them later.