From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Variable pitch text filling Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 09:08:48 +0200 Message-ID: <83lf1288sf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilwft1ph.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnkojmny.fsf@gnus.org> <837dcos1oy.fsf@gnu.org> <87o860jm27.fsf@gnus.org> <831r2ws0jf.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsrcjkik.fsf@gnus.org> <83y254qkq3.fsf@gnu.org> <87y254i56e.fsf@gnus.org> <83tufsqkd3.fsf@gnu.org> <87tufsi3x7.fsf@gnus.org> <83o860qi1i.fsf@gnu.org> <87czmgi2ec.fsf@gnus.org> <83lf14qgpu.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsrcgmdu.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilw8qg2s.fsf@gnu.org> <874k7sglur.fsf@gnus.org> <83fsrcqeq2.fsf@gnu.org> <874k7ro20z.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1avpf6g.fsf@gnu.org> <87tufrl70i.fsf@gnus.org> <063c14ec-b60e-fc10-a9b9-8808e2f58b40@gmail.com> <2532e13c-f128-c486-0c5a-c9d561149927@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7654"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jim Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 03 08:09:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mt2hP-0001o4-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 08:09:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mt2hN-00031p-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 02:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mt2gl-0002M5-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 02:08:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=48792 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mt2gl-0003BQ-2q; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 02:08:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=iIbHOewswgmP1Nns7Xu+EmEj7d4XgKKQF0HQUR2F7lY=; b=pdPCM39nVzAC VXwemxS91uX/ZabMIMID11qGdG1aGOiAR2AfbcCet5t8o+sBZbr3jFnGsZfgGPdvfwZpPkryYy5MZ lfxzAgOKFWwlXd5QIkrTxPGIYVu27PEAuZa3H7nphD+5YP3KemTh+RUwVweF/rRh71tS0RTmAl+Ql 1nlwRsOxwrH80FLITqGyK2yIF8PZlNnPFXeMMJNmvFy5VIFXin3g0BG5r/Dz4Bb5WAf32cJYBi9jw 0Gap3BCsC24mcQCJLe90XgmXbHE85NBQgFutj+LdytPMEBC0/Ixpy2Eedeo/t/d1dzUqNOxKbkZKY ostn6ZAw3bKkrR8Fb5kzvQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3112 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mt2gk-0000pF-RS; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 02:08:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <2532e13c-f128-c486-0c5a-c9d561149927@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Thu, 2 Dec 2021 14:32:08 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280809 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Jim Porter > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 14:32:08 -0800 > > That said, I forgot to mention the most obvious case where the default > Emacs configuration already changes the width of elements of the U:--- > thing: the newline indicator. For example, DOS newlines are indicated > via U(DOS)---. (Unless you're on a Windows/DOS system, that is.) > > I use single-character indicators so that it's easier to cycle through > them without clicking on the wrong thing. The default is probably easier > to understand for new users, but I find it pretty annoying. Switching to > icons here would be a nice improvement if they were all the same width. It was deliberately designed to annoy and attract attention, because I was told back then that users might otherwise miss an indication that's telling them the file has an unusual (a.k.a. "foreign") EOL format. If this is no longer an issue nowadays, we could change the default to be one-character no matter what is the platform.